2022 our 25th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Who's Online Now
70 members (AndyOnThePiano2, APianistHasNoName, AlkansBookcase, Charles Cohen, BillS728, Colin Miles, 36251, 12 invisible), 2,158 guests, and 339 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 236
D
Full Member
OP Offline
Full Member
D
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 236
I just saw this article a few days ago,

https://interlude.hk/the-lang-lang-...9MMwQGLjevDL_6Som1SmSm3voct3yL0CUotpnK1Y

What are your opinions of Lang Lang?

For me, I disliked his style for a long time, thinking it was overboard and comical. Later on, I fell in love with many of his performance (Tristesse, anyone ???) and started to understand and appreciate his style, technique, and interpretation.

He is now one of my most favorite classical concert pianists !! smile



Joined: May 2001
Posts: 26,905
Gold Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Gold Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 26,905
There's a very fine line to be drawn between lyricism and maudlin sentimentality. Lang Lang doesn't find that line in this video and perhaps his demeanor has something to do with it.

Regards,


BruceD
- - - - -
Estonia 190
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,870
W
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
W
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,870
I don't care about anyone's style, I take things on a per-piece basis and put the bar very high. Very few preformances are really good and I did not yet hear one from his hand.

Looking at the videos, I see too much distraction. Just play it without weird motions or gestures please. It could be chinese manners. Or mayhe he is just acting out what the public is asking. I'll just close my eyes when I find a performance of him that cuts it for me.


[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 236
D
Full Member
OP Offline
Full Member
D
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 236
Originally Posted by wouter79
I don't care about anyone's style, I take things on a per-piece basis and put the bar very high. Very few preformances are really good and I did not yet hear one from his hand.

Looking at the videos, I see too much distraction. Just play it without weird motions or gestures please. It could be chinese manners. Or mayhe he is just acting out what the public is asking. I'll just close my eyes when I find a performance of him that cuts it for me.

I agree with that. Even when watching videos of other performers/pianists, I tend not to watch but just listen to the music.

Last edited by DreamPiano80; 06/03/20 02:20 PM.
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,801
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,801
Plusses: terrific technique, has done an incredible amount to popularize classical music both in China and the rest of the world, excellent tone, infectious enthusiasm/personality

Minusses: interpretations are quite often bizarre/unmusical, is sometimes more of a showman than a serious classical musician, mannerisms mostly seem faked and extreme

Because of everything LL has done to popularize classical music I can "forgive" what I see as his shortcomings.

Last edited by pianoloverus; 06/03/20 02:44 PM.
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,801
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,801
Plusses: terrific technique, has done an incredible amount to popularize classical music both in China and the rest of the world, excellent tone, infectious enthusiasm

Minusses: interpretations are quite often bizarre/unmusical, is sometimes more of a showman than a serious classical musician, mannerisms mostly seem faked and extreme

Because of everything LL has done to popularize classical music I can "forgive" what I see as his shortcomings.

Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 4,460
S
4000 Post Club Member
Offline
4000 Post Club Member
S
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 4,460
Originally Posted by BruceD
There's a very fine line to be drawn between lyricism and maudlin sentimentality. Lang Lang doesn't find that line in this video and perhaps his demeanor has something to do with it.

Regards,

These things are subjective, so I can only say how I felt, which was similar to BruceD.

Body language and visual articulations aside, it was not an interpretation I was fond of. The musical articulations in the main section felt overdone and unnatural to me, while the middle section felt steely and virtuosic to me once he got past the opening theme of the section.


Reading Piano World with Javascript turned off (no logins, no ads, fast response times). I will receive PMs.
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
N
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
N
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
Lang Lang was very impressive and inspiring when he first appeared in the scene in 2003.

He wanted to be like Kissin. I am reminded how good Kissin is again by his Chopin Impromptus. (Mark C, what do you think about this one? :-)
Kissin Chopin Impromptus

Last edited by newport; 06/03/20 04:15 PM.
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 5,064
S
5000 Post Club Member
Online Content
5000 Post Club Member
S
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 5,064
Lang Lang is not my favorite pianist but I read the article and I find it quite unfair and simplistic. Most of it is more about LL attitude and impact rather than its actual playing. It is unfair because one can not hold just one person responsible of what the journalist is accusing LL of.

I find LL very often cant find the right balance between sensibility and sentimentalism (and mannerism). In His live performances he tends to accentuate this side. The same piece in a recording is more balanced, even if it is still very "romantic."

https://youtu.be/QaU4AuZ-2JQ


Blüthner model 6
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 882
P
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
P
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 882
He isn't my favourite pianist, I have to admit, but I found the article rather unfair as others have said. He isn't the only Chinese musician to have been successful, of course, although he has undoubtedly influenced parent's views on what their children could possibly achieve, but nevertheless that article just made me think the less of the journalist and more of him.

The recording of 'Tristesse' to me demonstrates a really excellent touch and tone, but frankly is, well, others have expressed it better than I can.

It's a shame, because he comes across in the few of his 'masterclasses' that I have seen as having genuine sentiments, love and understanding of music, and as an aside, as a nice guy. Unfortunately, though, I'm not really that keen on his interpretations of pieces that I have listened to. I'll persevere...

Last edited by petebfrance; 06/03/20 05:45 PM.

regards
Pete
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,409
C
1000 Post Club Member
Online Content
1000 Post Club Member
C
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,409
Yes - his mannerisms can be distracting but I really liked this version in contrast to this Clair de Lune which was so, so slow. The accompanying video was possibly more interesting.


Yamaha U1A, Roland LX706

South Wales, UK
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 8,949
8000 Post Club Member
Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 8,949
I think Lang Lang is a fine pianist, much like Yuja Wang. He gets criticized by people who prefer to listen to music with their eyes.


Private Piano Teacher and MTAC Member
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 12,370
S
PW Gold Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
PW Gold Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
S
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 12,370
Originally Posted by AZNpiano
I think Lang Lang is a fine pianist, much like Yuja Wang. He gets criticized by people who prefer to listen to music with their eyes.

My ears tell me Yuja far exceeds Lang Lang.

Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 207
F
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
F
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 207
Lang Lang? I personally don't like his playing. He seems like a genuine person, but that's unfortunately not what we're judging.

Take the Liszt E-flat concerto, which most modern pianists bang away without any understanding of the piece - I've heard very few do it justice - Lang Lang disappointed me in that concerto, unsurprisingly.

His Rondo alla Turca from a few years ago was way too fast.


https://www.youtube.com/@4ms (Music and hobbies)
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 8,949
8000 Post Club Member
Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 8,949
Originally Posted by dogperson
Originally Posted by AZNpiano
I think Lang Lang is a fine pianist, much like Yuja Wang. He gets criticized by people who prefer to listen to music with their eyes.

My ears tell me Yuja far exceeds Lang Lang.

You are entitled to your aural opinion, but I'm glad you're not one of those people who also criticize Yuja Wang's music with their eyes.

I like Yuja a little bit more than Lang because of her impeccable taste in repertoire. But they are about the same level in terms of technical brilliance and depth of musical thoughts.


Private Piano Teacher and MTAC Member
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 236
D
Full Member
OP Offline
Full Member
D
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 236
Originally Posted by AZNpiano
I think Lang Lang is a fine pianist, much like Yuja Wang. He gets criticized by people who prefer to listen to music with their eyes.

My thumbs up !! smile

(On a side note, I think Taylor Swift gets many awards or popular by her look rather than her music... but that is not even piano smile )

Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 5,064
S
5000 Post Club Member
Online Content
5000 Post Club Member
S
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 5,064
Originally Posted by DreamPiano80
(On a side note, I think Taylor Swift gets many awards or popular by her look rather than her music... but that is not even piano smile )

In the pop business, the look is part of the performance. But that said Taylor Swift is a great professional. She works a lot and her clips as well as concerts are perfectly staged. I am not a fan of her songs but i have to admit this is high quality work, most of the time. So she deserves her success, if that has any sense in the pop biz !


Blüthner model 6
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 484
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 484
<<
Because of everything LL has done to popularize classical music I can "forgive" what I see as his shortcomings>>

Yes! I’m glad you said it twice. smile


[Linked Image]
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 484
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 484
What a relatively negative article. Where are the videos the writer said he linked?

“ To validate my point, I am posting videos of two spike-haired, tuxedo-clad, head-bobbing 5-year-old pianists, who have achieved “stardom” via television appearances on the Ellen DeGeneres Show, playing piano in a spectacular but uncouth fashion, and became wildly famous when their footages went viral on the internet.”


[Linked Image]
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 882
P
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
P
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 882
Originally Posted by AZNpiano
I think Lang Lang is a fine pianist, much like Yuja Wang. He gets criticized by people who prefer to listen to music with their eyes.
Not true in my case and this instance because I didn't watch the video, just listened. I know that I find his movements off-putting, so I just scrolled down away from the video and listened.

My objection was that in the first section there were too many short pauses, the sort of thing one does to emphasis a note or phrase, but nothing came across to me of the emphasis, just short pauses that destroyed the flow, and there seemed to be too many. Kind of irritating, really. It is, of course, just my opinion. It's a shame, because the 2nd part had some wonderful moments, but by the time it had got that far I was fed-up with what I was hearing.

The comparison with Yuja Wang is interesting. She is, of course, much less 'mobile' when playing which I find preferable when watching. Who is the better pianist? That's another matter, and one that I am not qualified to comment on.

But, as I said earlier, I thought the article rather unfair and will listen to more of his performances because there is certainly something there of value - so perhaps it's just that I don't appreciate etc..


regards
Pete
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  Brendan, platuser 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
Piano World Has Been Sold!
--------------------
Forums RULES, Terms of Service & HELP
(updated 06/06/2022)
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
(ad)
(ad)
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Estonia 1990
by Iberia - 04/16/24 11:01 AM
Very Cheap Piano?
by Tweedpipe - 04/16/24 10:13 AM
Practical Meaning of SMP
by rneedle - 04/16/24 09:57 AM
Country style lessons
by Stephen_James - 04/16/24 06:04 AM
How Much to Sell For?
by TexasMom1 - 04/15/24 10:23 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums43
Topics223,387
Posts3,349,212
Members111,632
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010

Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations |

Advertise on Piano World
| Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map


Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All Rights Reserved.
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community.