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Combining Piano Marvel and Alfreds All in One
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I am doing this and enjoying it very much. I never knew what a bad performance I was calling “good” as I worked through Alfred until I started using Piano Marvel so I could actually see all my mistakes. I haven’t seen any references to using this combination on either of the ongoing threads that cater to users of these delightful self teaching aids so I decided to start one and see if I could lure some friends out of the woodwork. Anybody else doing this?

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1stTimer #2982513 05/22/20 01:34 PM
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Heyo. I am using Marvel and the Alfred Books too.
I also use Playground Sessions.
Marvel is more fun to play AND as you name it you can play all the alfred songs there too.

Marvel helped me alot gettin forward.
though i only play since 2 month so i am a bloody beginner.
still learning alot notes and sight reading.
the SASR from marvel is a good way to train and see how far i am.


but at the moment i am at the point where chords come in on every song.
and i really hate it.
i know piano is based on chords - i will get used to it i hope.
i really struggle when sharps or flats come into play in chords.
my fingers are just to big to fit between the keys. i always hit other keys too.....


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Hello Westman77. Delighted to find someone else doing the same thing. I am definitely going slower in Alfreds now that PM is pointing out all my weaknesses. Like you I frequently suffer from fat fingers.

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I'm also a big fan of doing Alfred's in Piano Marvel, really helps with the rhythm and like you say helps keep you honest about how well you know the piece if you make yourself get 100% before moving on.

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Piano Marvel is good for just hitting the right notes at the the right time. So fine for learning to sightread. At Level 5 and 6 in Method very often you can only earn a gold star (100%) if you can play the piece at superfast speed. That is not what music is all about. You don’t learn to play expressively in any way. Music is to express emotion, but Piano Marvel fails big way in this respect. Nevertheless I use Piano Marvel daily. My current Day Streak 146.

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1stTimer #2983861 05/25/20 06:27 PM
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Hi Amyram. I thought there ought to be a few more of us out there. It is such a winning combination. How far have you gotten? I’m currently working the the sixths in Lavenders Blue.

Hi Jan. Hitting the right notes at the right time is what I am trying to do. I wish it would correct my dynamics too but it doesn’t. Maybe the next version. How far have you gotten in Alfreds?

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[quote=1stTimer]Hi Amyram. I thought there ought to be a few more of us out there. It is such a winning combination. How far have you gotten? I’m currently working the the sixths in Lavenders Blue.

Hi Jan. Hitting the right notes at the right time is what I am trying to do. I wish it would correct my dynamics too but it doesn’t. Maybe the next version. How far have you gotten in Alfreds?[/quote

With Alfred AIO I got up to Raisins and Almonds with earning gold stars, except for the 3 Hannon Exercises and a few other songs. In total I still have 18 pieces to go for completion. I stopped a while ago with Alfred AIO because it took me too much time to earn gold stars. There is so much more to explore in the Piano Marvel treasure trove.

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Originally Posted by 1stTimer
Hi Amyram. I thought there ought to be a few more of us out there. It is such a winning combination. How far have you gotten? I’m currently working the the sixths in Lavenders Blue.

Hi Jan. Hitting the right notes at the right time is what I am trying to do. I wish it would correct my dynamics too but it doesn’t. Maybe the next version. How far have you gotten in Alfreds?

I have been working with a teacher so I am up to Rock It Away and Lullaby in Alfred's and also following Bartok Mikrokosmos and Kabalevesky 24 pieces for children (not in PM) so progress is slow through Alfred's but I hope the trade off is reinforced basics. I have also found it is good to do some pieces outside of PM because it is a transition going from reading a sheet or following a moving cursor, at least for me.

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Yes I have been doing this ever since PM added the book, it is awesome. I also use the let’s play piano methods dude On YouTube for explanation of each song. I am on Scarborough fair right now and finding it tougher than I thought. My question is, after you play the song and them move on to the next, if you go back to the song say 2 weeks later, are you able to still play it? I have gone back in the book to revisit songs and find them tough to play at first, takes a few times to refresh. Anyone else in that boat?


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Hi Radioome:
Me too, I was working my way through PMs lesson plan and then I saw the announcement that they had Alfreds on board. I dug out my old Alfreds book and now I can read about what it is I am supposed to learn from each piece. I like Alfreds lesson plan better than PMs. The Alfreds folks have benefitted from a ton of feedback about what works over the years and it shows.

Re: Your question. Yes, when I go back and play an older song, I definitely have to refresh my memory. I think thats just how the human brain works. If you asked me about the Carnot Cycle I would have to do some reviewing before I explained it to you even though having Thermodynamics on my mental speed dial was what got me through grad school

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I just noticed today that PM has added Martha Mier's Jazz, Rags & Blues Books 1,2 &3 to their library.
Exciting to me anyway.

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Originally Posted by amyram
I just noticed today that PM has added Martha Mier's Jazz, Rags & Blues Books 1,2 &3 to their library.
Exciting to me anyway.

They are super fun!


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I am relatively new to PM, testing it out..
How can you get to the alfred lessons?

And are those the lessons from the addult lesson books
Or are those the songs from the accompanying songbooks..

Aflreds is still kind of a jumgle to me, with all the different books
There is like 5 types of boks on some levels..



Just wondering what part of alfreds is in PM and how to get there

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The first two books of the Alfred's Adult All-In-One series are included in the PM library. You probably want a physical book to go with it since the all in one part the lesson parts in between the pieces of music are not in there, just the music. The reason it's called the All-in-One series is for the written parts and a few extra pieces to try. Otherwise is is the standard Alfred's Adult series without the theory.

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Originally Posted by amyram
I just noticed today that PM has added Martha Mier's Jazz, Rags & Blues Books 1,2 &3 to their library.
Exciting to me anyway.

That does sound exciting. Jazz isn’t my current thing so I don’t know anything about this series. I am left hoping that it is a swallow that heralds a whole Spring of additional books for people with specific interests. Are the songs arranged from easy to difficult in these books?
Originally Posted by Bachus
I am relatively new to PM, testing it out..
How can you get to the alfred lessons?

And are those the lessons from the addult lesson books
Or are those the songs from the accompanying songbooks..

Aflreds is still kind of a jumgle to me, with all the different books
There is like 5 types of boks on some levels..



Just wondering what part of alfreds is in PM and how to get there
Go to library section and type “Alfred” in title box. All the Alfred's books will come up.

Re: Jumble. Alfred recycles a lot of the same songs in various books. The one I am using is called “Alfreds Self-Teaching Adult Piano Course. So far all the songs in it are in the book that PM calls Alfreds All in One Adult Course.

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I am working on Kumbaya. Was really struggling to understand why the first measure sounded funny. Eventually it dawned on me that the little flag signifies an eighth note. I would never have picked that up if PM hadn’t kept telling me I was doing it wrong until I actually looked at the music properly. Braintender, dopamine for the house!


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