2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.9 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Petrof Pianos
Petrof Pianos
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Karsten Collection
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Who's Online Now
72 members (claburo, albydooby, Blague, Chewbacca, cfhosford, Charles Cohen, AjinoRegret, 15 invisible), 497 guests, and 223 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Brand New Yamaha u1 vs. 1998 Yamaha u1
#2985707 05/30/20 09:38 AM
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2
N
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
N
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2
Hi everyone, I need your help in deciding between getting a brand new Yamaha U1 or a used 1998 Yamaha U1.

A local dealer quoted me $7180 for the brand new Yamaha U1. He claims that this is a "unbelievable" price.

A different dealer quoted me $4990 for the used 1998 Yamaha U1, in excellent condition not requiring any reconditioning and with 3 year warranty.

The piano is for our daughter who is in kindergarten; we hope she'll play this piano until college. Her grandparents are buying it for her as a gift. Just not sure if getting the new one is worth $2000 more than getting a used Yamaha from '98 in excellent condition.

Would appreciate your thoughts and suggestions on how to decide. And also, are we getting a fair price? Could we negotiate? Thank you in advance.

(ad int) Petrof Pianos
Petrof Pianos
Re: Brand New Yamaha u1 vs. 1998 Yamaha u1
nananana #2985720 05/30/20 10:00 AM
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,006
L
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
L
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,006
Price seems fair to good. If the intend is to keep the piano for another 15 years I would go with the new one.


When you play, never mind who listens to you. R.Schumann.

Casio GP-400
Schimmel SP-182T
Re: Brand New Yamaha u1 vs. 1998 Yamaha u1
Learux #2985740 05/30/20 10:32 AM
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2
N
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
N
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 2
I apologise, I meant to say that the used one is from 2008 not 1998. Big difference.

Re: Brand New Yamaha u1 vs. 1998 Yamaha u1
nananana #2985744 05/30/20 10:38 AM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4,649
H
4000 Post Club Member
Offline
4000 Post Club Member
H
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4,649
Yes go with the new one if you intend to keep it until college.

Pianobuyer SMP is US$ 11399. Which means you get 37% discount on SMP. That really is a very good offer. Make sure they prep the piano and include a free first tuning after delivery.

https://www.pianobuyer.com/brand/yamaha/

Re: Brand New Yamaha u1 vs. 1998 Yamaha u1
nananana #2985799 05/30/20 12:00 PM
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 5,809
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 5,809
Originally Posted by nananana
I apologise, I meant to say that the used one is from 2008 not 1998. Big difference.

Thanks for the clarification. Since the piano is 12 years old and not 22 years old, that price makes a lot more sense.
Did they sound, feel, and look similar? A low-use piano from 2008 should act practically new. Will the used piano dealer still be around in the next 3 years to back the warranty, should you need it?

If you're budget limited, I would definitely consider the used piano. If not, and any of the stuff I mentioned in the paragraph doesn't measure up, then consider the new one, which is a well-discounted price.

In a home environment, with decent care, maintenance, and casual use, I'd expect a piano like this to provide a roughly 50 year service life before needing repairs that would exceed the value of the piano.


Pianist, teacher, apprentice technician, internet addict.
Piano Review Editor - Acoustic and Digital Piano Buyer
Re: Brand New Yamaha u1 vs. 1998 Yamaha u1
nananana #2985822 05/30/20 01:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,093
K
4000 Post Club Member
Offline
4000 Post Club Member
K
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,093
$4990 for a 2008 U1 assuming good condition is a fantastic price. Frankly, it is a good price if it were 1998. The guy that sells more used Yamaha U1s all over the country then anyone else sells early 1970s grey market U1s for that price all the time. Of course they come with a warranty and trade up, but still........


Keith D Kerman
PianoCraft
Rebuilding & Sales - vintage and used Steinway, Mason & Hamlin
New Steingraeber, Estonia, Baldwin
www.pianocraft.net
check out www.sitkadoc.com/ and www.vimeo.com/203188875
www.youtube.com/user/pianocraftchannel

keith@pianocraft.net 888-840-5460
Re: Brand New Yamaha u1 vs. 1998 Yamaha u1
nananana #2985914 05/30/20 06:22 PM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 12,069
Platinum Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Platinum Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 12,069
Originally Posted by nananana
... in excellent condition not requiring any reconditioning and with 3 year warranty.

Although many stores do exactly this (meaning sell a piano without doing work to it), it is exceedingly rare that a 12 year old piano could not be improved. Regulation, including squaring hammers, perhaps resurfacing hammers, voicing, buffing the finish, polishing brass, etc.

To me, if there is no work done on the piano, what real service is being provided by the store?

By the way, that is a smoking price on the new one.

My 2 cents,


Rich Galassini
Cunningham Piano Co.
Philadelphia, King of Prussia, and Cherry Hill, NJ
(215) 991-0834 direct line
rich@cunninghampiano.com
Visit our Online Store
Re: Brand New Yamaha u1 vs. 1998 Yamaha u1
nananana #2985930 05/30/20 07:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,490
J
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
J
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,490
Mind you at over $11300 for a new U1.... that *is* a smokin' deal on a new one. I forgot that American piano prices are quite a bit higher than they are in the UK and for $7180 if money is not the issue here, I'd take the new one, if it comes from a reputable dealer who can prep it to your liking!


Moderated by  Ken Knapp, Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
News from the Piano World
Where Did The Buttons Go?!
----------------------
Our April 2020 Newsletter Available Online Now...
The Piano World During the Pandemic!
----------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Fingering advice. Beethoven op 26
by albydooby - 07/15/20 08:09 AM
Peter Martin plays Stevie Wonder
by Simon_b - 07/15/20 07:34 AM
Scarlatti Themed Recital ready for listening!
by Sam S - 07/15/20 07:08 AM
Scarlatti Recital ready for listening!
by Sam S - 07/15/20 07:07 AM
30 days until Recital #59!
by Sam S - 07/15/20 07:04 AM
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics200,269
Posts2,980,873
Members97,771
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2020 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4