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Re: why MIDI 2.0 ?
HarmonySmurf #2984828 05/28/20 12:26 AM
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This is similar to the situation with Display color bit depth. w/ dithering you can go all the way down to 5-bit color and perceive very little difference vs 8 bit.

But the upsell tick box specs will put in big bold lettering 10bit-12bit color processing, even though it doesn't even work properly in most implementations.

Re: why MIDI 2.0 ?
HarmonySmurf #2984837 05/28/20 01:11 AM
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In both the TV and the MIDI cases, beware the marketers.

That said, I'm not going to say good dithering schemes won't improve the TV experience or that faster and better MIDI timing won't improve the digital piano experience. I'm always open to better AV solutions.

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MIDI 1.0 can also be carried on USB at fast speed. No need of MIDI 2.0.

One of the most important gain of MIDI2.0 is the dump of pathname, the save/restore a configuration which enable some tighter integration between a DAW and a synthesiser.

For a controller, event timestamp and HiRes control change seem to be the main gain.


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Re: why MIDI 2.0 ?
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Originally Posted by Frédéric L
MIDI 1.0 can also be carried on USB at fast speed. No need of MIDI 2.0.
I've never seen any proof that MIDI 1 runs faster on USB. This post provides some insight, however

Originally Posted by SynMike
....I am a co-author of the USB MIDI specification.

The current USB MIDI specification defines the difference between a 5pinDIN connection (31.25kbaud) and a higher speed direct connection. The spec could be improved in that regard, now looking in hindsight 20 years (!) later. But the bigger problem is that most operating system APIs don't use that part of the specification. Devices can send data into the Host at high speed, although you are never sure what your destination software can handle. Many (most?) software applications throttle all data to 31.25 when sending out of the Host to any port because they don't know what the destination can handle.

I'm optimistic that with MIDI 2.0 these limitations will be solved. MIDI 2.0 requires much higher bandwidth. The specs will define a solution. Then it is up to each manufacturer/developer to take advantage of the capabilities provided by the specifications.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/ele...n/1247128-midi-2-0-a-2.html#post13786652

Re: why MIDI 2.0 ?
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It seems the benefits accrue to music producers. As for the rest of us (VST users), there's not much of anything gained. (More is better, except when it's not.)

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