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Hello, I am studying for the RPT exam and am looking for vertical and grand action models. The Guild is out of stock on vertical models, and the grand model would cost more than $600! For that price I could buy an old grand and break apart the action. Anyways, I wondered if some vets in this forum might have an idea where to look. I struck out on eBay, PTG, Vandaking...

Any leads are appreciated.

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deotuning #2981479 05/20/20 07:12 AM
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Where will you take the exam? In our chapter the guys that administer the technical exam have all of the action models. They loan them out.


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Gene Nelson #2981522 05/20/20 09:42 AM
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Ah okay, I’ll ask our local chapters. I’m in the DC area and just joined the DC chapter.

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Talk with Hannah Beckett, president of your chapter.
The DC chapter has several active study groups.


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deotuning #2981861 05/20/20 07:53 PM
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This is a timely question as I’ve been looking also. My local chapter is small so it doesn’t have any although there might be a member or two that own them. I haven’t asked around yet so not sure those are 3 keyed ones either. The actual exams would be in a different chapter 2-3 hours away from where I am. Are single key models adequate as long as I have access to actual uprights and grands for multi key practice?

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These days it might be cheaper to pick up a free piano or two than an action model.


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Yes, I’ve thought about that also... except I’ll have to store any additional pianos outside with a tarp on. I’m afraid to touch the nice grand that I’m planning on having until I know what I’m doing, and I’ve realized that it wasn’t a good idea to buy a spinet for practice... maybe should have spent some money for an old full size upright.

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Originally Posted by Gene Nelson
Where will you take the exam? In our chapter the guys that administer the technical exam have all of the action models. They loan them out.


Actually, exam policy is that exam models are not used for practice so that they are in pristine condition for actual exams. Our chapter has both exam models and practice models.


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One thing to be aware of is that there are lots of little differences in the various action models you may get to work on when you take the technical exam. I had the privilege of getting to take it twice with the same examiners and they made a point of giving me different action models the second time. Those models were all different from the ones I practiced on, so I got to experience six different action models, three grand and three upright.


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deotuning #2982413 05/22/20 07:52 AM
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Yes, you must learn to regulate for function, not by copying specs by rote.
This will help you pass the RPT exams, but more important, you will know how to make quick, effective diagnoses and corrections on the real pianos you meet in the field.


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Are the mechanics within the same type, say among the uprights, that different from one manufacturer to another, or are they such that after familiarizing with a few variations one can adapt to others?

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They are "standard."
Don't worry about action models until you are preparing for the exam.
Try to get experience regulating 2 or 3 pianos (grand and vertical).
Regulating a piano is more difficult than regulating an action model, so if you can handle the real piano, a few run-throughs for timing will prepare you for the exam.

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