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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD
Horwinkle #2980013 05/16/20 05:06 PM
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USER LOCATION: Texas (USA)
MAKE: Kawai
MODEL: CA79 SB
CONDITION: New
PRICE PAID: $3140 (incl tax)
DELIVERY CHARGE: Included
VENDOR LOCATION: San Antonio, TX (online)
VENDOR NAME: Alamo Music
PURCHASE DATE: 09-May-2020


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Originally Posted by kimby
USER LOCATION: Texas (USA)
MAKE: Kawai
MODEL: CA79 SB
CONDITION: New
PRICE PAID: $3140 (incl tax)
DELIVERY CHARGE: Included
VENDOR LOCATION: San Antonio, TX (online)
VENDOR NAME: Alamo Music
PURCHASE DATE: 09-May-2020

Wow, that is a good price for the CA79. Alamo has been getting a lot of traction lately. I purchased my P-515 from them in San Antonio and it was delivered to Houston the next day.


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Hey I'm in Houston! Pearland, actually!

So I ordered this on Saturday, and it shipped on Wednesday. There was much confusion and lack of communication regarding the shipping. However, it left San Antonio on Wednesday and showed up at my door by Friday noon. So that's not too bad!

I had to stick to my guns. I did the online chat thing initially; per TripleMac's advice, told them what I wanted to pay, and they accepted the offer right away. Then I thought - oh no! I said too much! Anyway we settled on the price above. A different gentleman called me to complete the transaction and tried 3 times to sort of trick me into agreeing to a slightly higher price. That was annoying to deal with, but, not unexpected from a sales person.


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Originally Posted by kimby
Hey I'm in Houston! Pearland, actually!

So I ordered this on Saturday, and it shipped on Wednesday. There was much confusion and lack of communication regarding the shipping. However, it left San Antonio on Wednesday and showed up at my door by Friday noon. So that's not too bad!

I had to stick to my guns. I did the online chat thing initially; per TripleMac's advice, told them what I wanted to pay, and they accepted the offer right away. Then I thought - oh no! I said too much! Anyway we settled on the price above. A different gentleman called me to complete the transaction and tried 3 times to sort of trick me into agreeing to a slightly higher price. That was annoying to deal with, but, not unexpected from a sales person.

That's awesome, I'm in the Galleria area. I got the 15% off coupon to use on the P-515 through their online chat. It was quite painless. If you take a look at the prices paid spreadsheet, the last person that purchased a CA79 from Alamo paid $3550 so you did really good on the price.

Enjoy the CA79.


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MAKE:Yamaha
MODEL:N1x
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PRICE PAID: $9,000 Cdn
DELIVERY CHARGE: none
VENDOR LOCATION: Vancouver
VENDOR NAME: Tom Lee Music
PURCHASE DATE: May 15, 2020

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Norm, you're making me jealous! You literally got this for 2x the CA79 (in USD)!

Congratulations on the N1x!!


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USER LOCATION: Central Vermont, USA
MAKE: Yamaha
MODEL: N1X
CONDITION: New
PRICE PAID: $8200
DELIVERY CHARGE: none
VENDOR LOCATION: Brookline, MA, USA
VENDOR NAME: Williams Piano Shop
PURCHASE DATE: May 20, 2020


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NormB #2981662 05/20/20 01:18 PM
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This is really a good deal. $9000 CAD is around $6500 USD.
Originally Posted by NormB
USER LOCATION: Vancouver, BC
MAKE:Yamaha
MODEL:N1x
CONDITION: New
PRICE PAID: $9,000 Cdn
DELIVERY CHARGE: none
VENDOR LOCATION: Vancouver
VENDOR NAME: Tom Lee Music
PURCHASE DATE: May 15, 2020
From what I've heard in years past Tom Lee is not typically the low-price leader.
So, with pricing like this ... I'm feeling pretty good about getting one next year.

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Some businesses seem to be dealing out so many coupons. DP prices are EXTREMELY relative. Purchased my P515 from Ken Stanton music for 1275 USD. Would've bought a bundle from Kraft for 1800. Spent 1570 for everything in that bundle instead.


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It seems like Mark Alexander paid $8,200 today for the N1X. I noticed another member (Camass) paid $7,400 for the N1X on December 19 at the same dealer.

I’m genuinely curious about the increase in price, and I wonder if it’s related to the current reality.

I was hoping for prices to go down, and initially that seemed to be the case, but considering that companies like Yamaha are probably producing at half their capacity, and adding to that all the other issues related to the virus, it now seems like the opposite is happening: prices are going up.

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Originally Posted by Pete14
It seems like Mark Alexander paid $8,200 today for the N1X. I noticed another member (Camass) paid $7,400 for the N1X on December 19 at the same dealer.

I’m genuinely curious about the increase in price, and I wonder if it’s related to the current reality.

It's hard to say with two data points. One factor is that I didn't bargain too hard; I gave the dealer a quote I'd gotten from a place on the other side of the country, and he offered me a slightly lower price, which I accepted. The other factor is distance and delivery; I'm a six hour round trip away from the dealer, and he was willing to drive it up here himself (with a helper), drag the thing upstairs, and set it up. I was happy to pay a bit extra for that service, so I didn't try to bargain him down.


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Thanks, Mark.

Yes, it seems like prices fluctuate between $7,000 to what you paid ($8,200) depending on specific circumstances.

For example, I had no idea that dealers had to pay a fee for financing/credit; which is why they prefer cash and are willing to give bigger discounts for cash-only transactions. Someone here got an N1X for $7,000, but the dealer insisted on cash only, or the price would’ve been higher.

Also, it could depend on how much the dealer actually paid for that -specific- unit, how long it has been sitting on the floor, how much space they have available for more pianos, etc....

My take is that prices are trending upwards for manufacturing, distribution, shipping, etc.. and this will slowly show up in price increases at the dealer.

So anyone on the fence for an N1X should strike now, or risk paying much more within the next few months.

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Pete! No sarcasm? No humor? I'm surprised. smile

Anyway ... the credit card fee is usually bundled into the fixed price of ordinary merchandise at ordinary merchant stores.
You don't negotiate the price of a jug of milk by offering cash instead of CC. You're stuck with the overhead.
So just use the CC to get your 1% cash back deal.

But on expensive negotiated merchandise, the price is not fixed prior to sale. The deal creates the price, and the buyer can sweeten the dealer by offering cash.
Most cards carry a 2.5% overhead ... that's the bank's "take". When you offer cash you're effectively offering 2.5% more to the dealer.
But when paying cash you're losing your 1% cash back on the CC. Adjust your offer accordingly.

Have you ever wondered why American Express is not accepted at most retailers? The traditional Amex card carries a 6% load.
That's a killer for many businesses. Hotels accept Amex and they work the high-fee card into the room rate, so all customers see that extra bump, even those paying with cheaper cards. frown

Would you like to pay cash and get a lower price?
We all would. But in the US legislation from a half-century ago prohibited retailers from charging more for CC purchases.
(I wonder which lobby pressed Congress for that law.)

But this law can be skirted when buyer and seller "work" the selling price.
So forget the credit card. Work out a lower price. A no-CC "discount" will apply ... with no written indication of such.

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USER LOCATION: Bay Area, CA
MAKE: Yamaha
MODEL: N1X
CONDITION: New
PRICE PAID: $6999 (No Sales Tax)
DELIVERY CHARGE: Included
VENDOR LOCATION: New York
VENDOR NAME: Faust Harrison Pianos
PURCHASE DATE: May 13, 2020

Note: Price matched a local store who initially offered the $6999 but only wanted payment by cash/check, and I was very uncomfortable sending money like that via snail mail since they were physically closed)

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Did you have to still pay the full amount in cash, or was there some form of financing? (down payment + finance amount remaining).
Also, what was their quote for fully financing (0 down) and/or using a credit card?

This is the lowest price paid so far from a member, and it would help to know as many details as possible for other members to better understand their options /leverage.

Thank you.

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....cgeronimo, if you get to read this, I forgot one key question: Are you getting the piano directly from the distributor (located in California), or is the dealer shipping directly from NY?

I mean, the expense to ship from NY to CA should be substantial, and I don’t know how this would work (financially) for the dealer. So, considering the price you got, it would make more sense for them to simply have the distributor ship it directly to you.

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Pete: Member "wintryfresh" bought an N1x last September for $6900 including tax. Slightly lower than this deal.

But I agree with your point about the shipping. Faust Harrison in New York is a long way from cgeronimo's California location. That's a lot of shipping expense.

(Also ... I've detected little or no humor or sarcasm is several of your recent posts. I'm beginning to suffer withdrawal. Please stop damaging my health. Thank you.) smile

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I apologize for the lack of sarcasm, but it seems like my meds are not kicking in as of late. The meds usually bring out the more ‘colorful’ side of me.

I’m due for a doctor’s visit, and I’ll bring this up to her. Fingers-crossed, she either ups the ante on my current or gives me something new. At this point more potent for me would be at the level of horse pain-killers, but what can I do? I need them meds! grin

Regarding ‘wintryfressh’, there was some debate about him getting that price. I believe someone here contacted the dealer, and the dealer said he’d not sold an N1X under $8,000.

I’m not sure if wintry presented any further proof of this transaction ever happening; perhaps he should chime in.

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Yes, I forgot all about "winty".

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So I posted this in another thread when I was looking for insight as to the NU1X and N1X.

My journey to purchase a piano started maybe over a year ago. I had tried the N1X about 8-9 months ago and I remember I was amazed at the touch. Fast forward to early May, I made an in-store appointment with my neighborhood store, literally 5 minutes drive away. They are the main supplier/store who does the deals at my local Costco too. I tried an NU1X, and after some consideration with help here I decided on the N1X. The neighborhood store quoted me at $7995 with no tax (9.25%) and delivery Included. After trying the NU1X, I left and they said they could do $7995 out the door.

I called around the various local stores, all of them were closed and refused to take in-store appointments. I told them I don’t need to try the piano, I know what I’m looking for and I know what I want. I got various quotes, nothing better than the $7995. One store in San Jose quoted me at $6999.99 (out the door, no tax, delivered) after hearing my $7995 offer. I inquired about financing and payment since their store was physically closed. They said, cash only, no credit or financing because they are already taking a hit on the low price, and everything would be done by mail or phone. I was really sketchy about sending a check for that amount through the mail, and just highly uncomfortable. I went back to the neighborhood store with the $6999.99 and they were impressed at that price. The lowest they could do was $7500.

I took that $6999.99 quote and took a last ditch effort and tried the first store that came up on the east coast after a search. Faust Harrison was willing to match the price with no tax and Include delivery, off the bat. They also took credit, and offered financing. From then I was done. I signed the contract, went through financing (just so we could allocate the funds to a credit card with a significantly higher rate and pay cash in a few months).

The piano took a week, and if I had to guess, I think it came from a distributor here. Just from a business standpoint, I believe it wouldn’t be cost effective shipping a 200 pound piano across the country. But I could be wrong?

After I signed the deal, another East Bay store reached out with an offer of $6750; delivered and no tax. Same deal though, no credit, no financing, has to be paid in cash or check through the mail. I was already waiting for Piano delivery, and like I said I would not have blindly sent a check to a store that isn’t physically open or willing to take a one-on-one appointment.

My observation through all of this. The stores who are willing to take and make one-on-one appointments and accommodations, their prices were significantly higher... $8000 and up. The best deal was $7500 in person. The stores who weren’t open, and unwilling to make accommodations, had the best prices but with no financing options, not even credit card. I think this was because the stores who are open and making appointments have the opportunity of negotiation or figure that someone that is deeming their desire to shop around for a piano during this time as “essential,” is more likely to pull the trigger in store, at a higher price.

I’m guessing that the reasoning for the no financing, no credit, and mail cash or check only, is to avoid fees and additional overhead.

It was a very interesting experience to say the least. While I would have loved to support my neighborhood store that’s minutes away, $6999.99 was really difficult to walk away. My wife and I considered actually taking the $7500 to support them, but ultimately didn’t. I might go and purchase a piano bench from them though, as the one with N1X appears to be a little uncomfortable at the moment.

Also. I did have to assemble the piano myself, which I preferred. In a year or so we will probably move, and at least I know how to tear it down and put it together. It’s actually very easy.

I hope this information proves useful. There are plenty of deals to be had my fellow enthusiasts! If you were EVER considering to purchase a piano, now appears to be a pretty good time. I’m not a comfortable negotiator, and all the price cuts and quotes actually came from my silence and the stores appearing desperate for profit and business.

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