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Maybe they are as good? I've never had pleasure to test them so I don't know.

Who knows, perhaps Kawai phones are name brand phones. They might be Onkyo like everything in CA99. Which is perhaps Denon or Marantz.
Or perhaps not. I lost the track what is what.
They might be actually optimized for digital piano. Kawai makes that claim, if I am not mistaken.
So it is interesting to try them.
The price is suspiciously low, though.

I like Sennheiser HD 600. And I am thinking about getting Sennheiser HD 660S.
Not as an upgrade but rather as an alternative, because their sound stage is very different.
Speaking of Senns, I see that Sennheiser HD 598 and 599 are recommended for piano. As well as Sennheiser 280 Pro - which is different, closed type.

Ive got Sennheiser momentum 2.0 phones.
Does anyone think that will give me a good quality piano experience through headphones?
Also the piano is advertised with the sound stage thing using headphones.
Can this be felt just by listening to ca99 demos on YouTube through headphones, or does the 3d sound only work directly through listening from headphones plugged into the piano?

Sennheiser Momentum (1.0) would be better.
They made 2.0 specifically and deliberately to be incompatible with Kawai's and most other digital pianos.
Because, if I'm not mistaken, the cable in 2.0 is connected to the right side instead of the proper left side. Very evil of Sennheiser.

The cable is on the right side you are correct. But I was able to use these headphones on my Casio px 735 no problem. Maybe that is one of the few dp exceptions?

Here is the video of the noise issue.


Also a picture of the felt issue

Hello Sebastian,


I watched your video. It's a little difficult to tell how loud the key return noise is from this video, as smartphones have a tendency to automatically compress/normalise quiet sounds when recording video. Also, the camera seems to keep moving away from your fingers when the keys are released. However, if other keys do not produce the same sound, it's perhaps worth seeking assistance from your dealer.


I can't tell clearly, but perhaps the key felt has folded under itself. If this is the case, it should be relatively easy to fix.


The first point of contact should be with your dealer. Explain the situation that you're experiencing, along with videos, pictures, etc. and ask how the matter should be resolved. If the dealer is unable to assist you (due to location), it's perhaps best to also contact Kawai America.

I hope this helps.

Kind regards,
James
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...these are name brand phones.

Thanks for reply. other keys make zero sound. I point camera away when I repeat the key I just pressed with microphone pointed at the key for better clarity.

Felt seems glued like that. it wouldnt move with easy pull. I dont wanna try hard obviously.

I have already contacted the dealer, will see what they say.

I expected such a reaction from you
But are they really Onkyo phones inside?

I'm afraid it's not my place to say, however I believe other forum visitors may have mentioned the manufacturer elsewhere...

James
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Yes, I new you would say "no comment" the moment I posted it.
I found the information elsewhere, not at a forum here:
"The Kawai SH-9 piano headphones were developed in cooperation with another japanese company called Audio Technica and are specially optimized for the sound reproduction of piano sounds"

Sorry, KJ, but Kawai is not known for phones.
For pianos, yes. I owned one. I buy Kawai for pianos, not for phones.
Just as I'd buy Kelloggs for their cereal, but not for headphones.

So Kawai SH-9 headphones are made by Audio-Technica.

Audio-Technica headphones are often recommended for digital pianos.
Most often: Audio-Technica ATH-M40x.
But also Audio-Technica ATH-M50x, Audio-Technica ATH-AD700X, Audio-Technica ATH-AR3BT, Audio-Technica AUD ATHAD1000X - are those actual headphones?
The price of SH-9 seems to indicate Audio-Technica ATH-M40x.
Do they look like SH-9?

I purchased a CA99. I practice on it everyday. It is an amazing piano. I have not had any problems with it all. The feel/action is fantastic and the sound is heavenly.

Congratulations!
I hope most people have no problems and just do not report that happy news here.

The heavenly sound would be even more heavenly, if instead of 3 Kawai pianos they had included Kawai, Steinway and Fazioli.
But that will never happen.
Only Casio may do this, with no acoustic pianos of their own.
Or Yamaha, if they buy Kawai, Steinway and Fazioli

4 Kawai pianos, if you include the upright.

OK, then.
Kawai, Steinway, Fazioli and Ravenscroft

Hi James,

So i was just about to order a CA79 and i see this issue. [quote=Kawai James] Please can you explain if this a known problem with these models?
No way i will spend 3 grand until Im sure the quality is good.

Kind regards

And what kind of sensors are actually used in the keyboard, and how reliable they are?
If optical sensors - no wear and tear. But perhaps sensitive to dust particles.