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How many of you have done this?
How many of you would try it?
How many of you would advise against it?



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When I was younger, I might have done this with a lighter piano, but players were always too heavy for me. You have to do it all the time, and I never did.

I did move a Kimball studio a year or so ago, but with others. No ramp, though.


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Looks good to me...but Im in the worker smarter not harder camp...He has moved more than one !!

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To me, I think it’s best left to professionals who do it all the time. The work smarter part is the dolley, ramp, straps, and padding. We’ve got padding, blankets, and straps but no dolley or enclosed truck so I couldn’t and wouldn’t attempt it, especially by myself. It was cool to watch his technique.


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We are delivering a nice used baby grand to North Carolina on Monday. We are sending one man - no steps. A professional can do great stuff safely.

I have worked on deliveries in a pinch and I happen to be a bigger guy, but I don't think I would take a chance with an upright that size by myself. Too much height and weight and it is not my "skill set".

BUT - it is this kind of move that scares the heck out of me. Two young guys who feel like they are immortal - but one mis-step and it is a disaster. AND people are walking around them:






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I thought he was going to put it in the trunk of that sedan.


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Originally Posted by Learux
I thought he was going to put it in the trunk of that sedan.

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This is frightening! I realize that those steps might be delicate and prone to damage but why carry a grand DOWN stairs when gravity will take it down for you?


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Originally Posted by tunerman
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This is frightening! I realize that those steps might be delicate and prone to damage but why carry a grand DOWN stairs when gravity will take it down for you?

Right. I totally agree David.


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The number of things wrong with that.... they were tied off to the frame for one......


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I'm in the "work smarter and not harder" camp. However, the last old upright I moved, I had help getting it on my furniture dolly with special, non-marring rubber wheels, out the door, down the ramp and up on to my utility trailer. Easy peasy.

When I got home, I did not have any help getting it off the utility trailer, and rolled it down the ramp using gravity, while I supported the top to keep it from tipping over. At the bottom of the ramp, the piano kind of bounced a bit, but was smooth sailing.

I used a hydraulic floor jack to get the piano off the dolly and noticed a small crack in one of the planks of my dolly. That bump was more than the dolly could stand, evidently. But it was an easy repair for the dolly plank.

But I'm not one to let something get the best of me, usually, and all was well with me and the piano. smile

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We once moved my Kawai console because we were in a remote location and the pro movers were way above what we could afford. We had three friends show up to help. They knew they were going to move a piano. One shows up in a crop top and miniskirt. Granted it was summer and 110 degrees, but still. We were sliding the piano into the truck when she decided to care more about her skirt showing anything and let go of the piano to pull her skirt down. Piano almost ended up upside down on the pavement. I was mortified because of the piano; she was mortified because of what she was wearing. I decided to NEVER, ever trust friends to help with anything after that! I think it took four hours to get the darn piano into the truck! We damaged the case quite a bit, too. Thankfully it was pretty old and not really in that great of shape to begin with.

Now I always have the pros do it. My CW is in a basement studio. Down stairs, around a tight corner like a typical 1956 house. I have NO IDEA how they got my piano to its location. I couldn't watch. I don't even want to be home when we have it moved out in a few months.


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We once moved my Kawai console because we were in a remote location and the pro movers were way above what we could afford. We had three friends show up to help. They knew they were going to move a piano. One shows up in a crop top and miniskirt. Granted it was summer and 110 degrees, but still. We were sliding the piano into the truck when she decided to care more about her skirt showing anything and let go of the piano to pull her skirt down. Piano almost ended up upside down on the pavement. I was mortified because of the piano; she was mortified because of what she was wearing. I decided to NEVER, ever trust friends to help with anything after that! I think it took four hours to get the darn piano into the truck! We damaged the case quite a bit, too. Thankfully it was pretty old and not really in that great of shape to begin with.

Now I always have the pros do it. My CW is in a basement studio. Down stairs, around a tight corner like a typical 1956 house. I have NO IDEA how they got my piano to its location. I couldn't watch. I don't even want to be home when we have it moved out in a few months.

great story!!!

That is a formula of disaster to happen... if she did not drop the piano, I think someone would drop it anyway smile

I remember reading about 3 teenagers hijacked a billboard on the side of a highway and decided to put porn on it. Needless to say, many car accidents happened that day until police got noticed and pulled that down...

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It seems like I’ve seen a number of disasters perpetrated by pros. So they don’t always walk on water.
I’ve been involved with several piano moves over the years with no issues.
However, if you have any doubts you should pay someone else.


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Originally Posted by tunerman
Rich-
This is frightening! I realize that those steps might be delicate and prone to damage but why carry a grand DOWN stairs when gravity will take it down for you?
That was scary !
People going past ,people all over ,so distracting.
The one mover carried the piano with one arm and held
on to the bannister with the other and had to go down
backwards.
I kept inside while they delivered my 130 upright.I did not want to see.
When I had a U1 delivered previous to this piano ,there
is one short garden stair.There was a moment when
one of the movers was suddenly balancing on one leg.
Just as fluctuations in my heart rhythms increased he regained balance and the piano was almost at
the door way.It was almost a disaster.

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The gentleman I bought my Petrof upright from delivered it by himself, using dolly and a ramp, so no stairs. He was clearly very experienced in doing it that way. That was one of those European-style uprights (no front legs) so probably a good bit lighter than some uprights, but still, not lightweight by any means!

My grand was delivered by professional piano movers... Unfortunately, none of us realized how dicey it would be getting the piano from its spot in the seller's house, out onto some slippery cobblestones, up very steep and narrow steps, too many turns and slopes until they could get up the driveway and up to their truck. The movers were just two guys, but they really needed an third person. The piano did almost tip over to its death at one point, but they saved it from destruction and got it safely loaded up. Then off the truck and into my house was a snap (and that part of the move was clearly a two-person job, what they're used to). So in the end the piano got moved safely, thank goodness!


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My Yamaha GB1K and C3 were delivered professionalmy by 2 men. We tend to prefer one storey or “ranch” homes so things moved fairly easy and straight forward. The C3 we hired professional movers to take it from one house to this house in town. A bit dicey thanks to yours truly because I locked the C3 and had the key at the new house so it made it more difficult to get the piano out and partway down the steep driveway. But they did the job perfectly. For the Estonia, there were two big guys that did the job like clockwork and did have a smaller young guy put together the matching bench. Easy Peasy. I’ve struggled managing home moves (5 times in 32 years) and I detest moving furniture! It sucks! So for my pianos, I’ll let professionals do it.


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I bought a 6'2 grand that was about 150 miles away.

I used a piano board and there were 3 of us loading.

Uhaul does not offer ramps on their enclosed trailers. I was 100+ miles from home and pressed for time, so I made due with an open trailer. It did not have a smooth ramp or floor. It was like corrugated but it had holes in it, so I bought some plywood. We had to work through a few issues on that one.

It rained less than an hour after we got it inside! It was moved with 0 damage.

When I sold my other grand piano, several guys came with an enclosed trailer. It wasn't tall enough to get the piano in.

They wanted to lay it down flat, with no legs on it! I told them that was a bad idea. We wouldn't have had room to move and I dont know how the guys that walked backwards could have gotten out without stepping on the piano!

I started measuring, only the entrance was too short, so we had to lift it and tip it 45 degrees to get it in. Then we stood it on its side and it just fit.

Luckily, we had some strong guys for that one.

Experience, planning and communication are essential in moving. The right equipment reduces the need for lots of people. Watching videos helped me to understand a lot before I started.

The guys that got my piano were from a Russian church. They hadn't researched piano moving at all, so I helped them load, unload, and set it up. Some of them had limited English, but we still communicated well. We quickly became friends and had a blast moving it together.

It started pouring rain that time as we were unloading.😁

The second move was easier than the first and I would have no reluctance to move another one.

I wouldn't recommend it to everyone. Amateurs can do it, but it may not be easy. You have to accept that there is some risk. An upright should be much simpler to move but still heavy.

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Originally Posted by Learux
I thought he was going to put it in the trunk of that sedan.

Me too, Learux! wink

I'm in the work smarter not harder category too.

The guy in this video makes it look easy. I think when I was younger, maybe. But not now. In general, I'm a DiYer. But I hired pro's to bring my piano home. Safety first.


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