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Re: Casio GP300/500 v Casio GP310/510
Colin Miles #2894999 09/28/19 02:46 AM
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First, I only care about my hands reflection in the fallboard. Which DP can provide me with that else, except much more expensive Avantgrand and NV10, ha?

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Re: Casio GP300/500 v Casio GP310/510
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Originally Posted by PianoStartsAt33
First, I only care about my hands reflection in the fallboard. Which DP can provide me with that else, except much more expensive Avantgrand and NV10, ha?

Udachny now. Far from Murmansk, but just as cold, eh? Are you a diamond miner PSA33? Because one good uncut diamond would pay for both the Avantgrand and the NV10 wink


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Re: Casio GP300/500 v Casio GP310/510
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Originally Posted by PianoStartsAt33
First, I only care about my hands reflection in the fallboard. Which DP can provide me with that else, except much more expensive Avantgrand and NV10, ha?

Udachny now. Far from Murmansk, but just as cold, eh? Are you a diamond miner PSA33? Because one good uncut diamond would pay for both the Avantgrand and the NV10 wink


It's even colder, bro))
I am underground mining engineer of geomechanical department.
Well, unlike Angola, you won't be shot dead for a single diamond taken from mine here, but will be arrested and sent in jail for 10 years)


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Re: Casio GP300/500 v Casio GP310/510
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Originally Posted by PianoStartsAt33
I am underground mining engineer of geomechanical department.

Haha. I was close. My wife has a best friend whose husband was a former board member of your current employer smile

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Well, unlike Angola, you won't be shot dead for a single diamond taken from mine here, but will be arrested and sent in jail for 10 years)

Well, of course I was joking.... (or maybe not! shocked laugh )

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It's even colder, bro))

Well, underground, I guess the weather is all the same, eh? grin

I spent two days in Krasnoyarsk Krai (Norilsk) back in 1997. I think everything on me froze. And it was only November! laugh


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Re: Casio GP300/500 v Casio GP310/510
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
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I am underground mining engineer of geomechanical department.

Haha. I was close. My wife has a best friend whose husband was a former board member of your current employer smile

Well, underground, I guess the weather is all the same, eh? grin




Alrosa company)? Wow)) May be he still has some influence on them, just to help me in getting better position (for me to be able to spend more time with piano then under the ground grin)?

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Well, underground, I guess the weather is all the same, eh? grin

I spent two days in Krasnoyarsk Krai (Norilsk) back in 1997. I think everything on me froze. And it was only November!



Yeah, it's almost the same. Several degrees colder on winter (sometimes it comes down to -55 C below zero on the surface here).


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Re: Casio GP300/500 v Casio GP310/510
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Hello to All,

Just to let you know that I have created a new thread called "Digital pianos and the use of an external DAC for headphones - Piano World Piano & Digital Piano Forums" at http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...rnal-dac-for-headphones.html#Post2895057
I think there might be a few digital piano players among you who might use an external DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) for their headphones while playing their digital piano. If it is the case, many thanks in advance to give me some feedback on this matter at this newly created thread.

Many thanks to those in this thread who gave me some feedback on their assessment of the 2 videos comparing the GP-510 with the GP-500. Very much appreciated.
Here again are these 2 videos:
---"S. Rachmaninoff: Prelude op. 23 no. 5 in g minor - Kateryna Titova - Celviano Grand Hybrid GP-500 - YouTube" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNRY2qOH5IM
---"L. v. Beethoven - Sonata No. 14, Op. 27 no. 2, movement 3 - Kateryna Titova on GP-510 - YouTube" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtp0TJlgnY

Kind Regards,
A guy who loves the piano, MikePianoLover

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Re: Casio GP300/500 v Casio GP310/510
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I am underground mining engineer of geomechanical department.
Haha. I was close. My wife has a best friend whose husband was a former board member of your current employer smile

Well, underground, I guess the weather is all the same, eh? grin
Alrosa company)? Wow)) May be he still has some influence on them, just to help me in getting better position (for me to be able to spend more time with piano then under the ground grin)?

Yes, Alrosa. I don't know if he is still involved. Your company's "corporate governance" is rather "intricate." LOL.

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[quote=PianoStartsAt33]Well, underground, I guess the weather is all the same, eh? grin

I spent two days in Krasnoyarsk Krai (Norilsk) back in 1997. I think everything on me froze. And it was only November!
Yeah, it's almost the same. Several degrees colder on winter (sometimes it comes down to -55 C below zero on the surface here).

-55C !!! shocked eek When it is that bitter cold, must be a pleasure to get underground where it's "warm"! laugh I hope you are being well-paid for this torture. Clearly you need a piano reward! 🎹 3hearts


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Re: Casio GP300/500 v Casio GP310/510
Colin Miles #2970606 04/23/20 01:39 PM
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I own a Kawai RX-6 but recently moved from a house in to a townhouse. My practice time has been reduced greatly because I don't want to disturb my neighbors during off hours. I would really like to get back on to my normal schedule where I practice before work in the morning, sneak in a little during the work day and then do some practicing again at night.

While researching hybrid grands, I came across the Casio GP310/510. I feel it is very reasonably priced and it looks like the action is fantastic! Has anyone had a chance to get hands-on with either of these? Any comments/insights provided are greatly appreciated.

I am not really concerned too much about the piano sound. I am really looking for a good concert grand action to practice on. Right now I have to resort to a Native-Instruments S88 and while it is not bad for what it is, it is not something that I can get a really good practice session on without starting to hurt myself.

I won't be selling my RX-6. You could not pry it out of my dead, cold hands :-). I just want something that I can practice on realistically during off hours.

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The sound with headphones on these Casio is good enough for me.

I mainly bought mine because I loved the action.

Have not played the newer 310/510 so can't say anything about them.


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Originally Posted by FrankieC
While researching hybrid grands, I came across the Casio GP310/510. I feel it is very reasonably priced and it looks like the action is fantastic! Has anyone had a chance to get hands-on with either of these? Any comments/insights provided are greatly appreciated.

I am not really concerned too much about the piano sound. I am really looking for a good concert grand action to practice on.

Technically, there aren't any (production) digital pianos with a "concert grand" (9ft) action. If the action realism is paramount to you, you should make sure to try out the Yamaha AvantGrand N1X/N3X, and the Kawai Novus NV-10, they're the only "true" hybrid DPs available, meaning they have real, acoustic grand actions (but they start at $7-8k).

The Casio GP-series has a more traditional DP action that is mechanically similar to the Kawai CA-series (Grand Feel), and perhaps the Yamaha CLP-675/685 (GrandTouch) and Roland LX-706/708. Basically, in this price range most DPs have premium digital actions, and each has their fans, so you should definitely try out different ones and pick the one you like the best.


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Originally Posted by FrankieC
Has anyone had a chance to get hands-on with either of these? Any comments/insights provided are greatly appreciated.

I am not really concerned too much about the piano sound. I am really looking for a good concert grand action to practice on.
The Kawai CA79/CA99 action is better.

Weight grading on the GP-310/GP-510 is unrealistic (39g at C8 up to 60g at A0). Kawai CA79/CA99 in comparison is about 48g at C8 up to 53g at A0 (much closer weight grading to that of a concert grand).

Also the key length is not that long on the Casios (22cm from memory - in posted the actual length on here a couple of weeks ago). So that's also not close to that of a grand piano.

Then there is also the key surface to consider - those Casios are quite slippery if your fingers sweat much.

Finally, the GP-310 doesn't let you save settings. Deal breaker issue there.

If Casio fix those 4 issues then they'd be worth the price they're asking.

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I am not really concerned too much about the piano sound. I am really looking for a good concert grand action to practice on.

There is no Casio with a grand action.

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