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Re: Can a Clavinova be good for practicing?
Jethro #2966518 04/13/20 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jethro
But OT...

She shows that it doesn't matter if you even play with toilet paper it will still sound good as long as its and acoustic! I will have to give her a hard time about this video.

Can the sceptics among us be convinced that this wasn't a dubbed video? I find it hard to believe that one can get that kind of individual note accuracy with the edge of a toilet paper roll.

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Re: Can a Clavinova be good for practicing?
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Thanks Rich, I enjoyed the video. One of my piano teachers taught group lessons on an assortment of digitals. I always picked the Clavinova because it had the nicest touch and a great selection of rhythms and voices. There is a whole selection of things to work on and use with digitals that are great fun and relieve boredom. After our little group successfully finished a piece, we would pick different instrument voices and play like a 5 or 6 piece band. It was really enjoyable.

That is a bunch of fun, for sure, j&j.

It occurs to me that I should mention that choosing a digital piano does not mean that you do not appreciate a fine acoustic piano. I have many clients who have and enjoy owning and playing a fine acoustic piano, but also own a digital piano for silent play, for recording and play back, for occasional moves from the basement to the bedroom (or to a vacation spot). I also have a number of clients who move to a digital (or a hybrid) simply for space considerations and are happy with their performance. Lastly, my largest number of Clavinova clients are getting their first piano. We offer trade up to an acoustic and this is an entry level first instrument for their family.


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Electronic instruments are indeed a lot of fun and very nice to try to compose music. I have a program called Reason by Propeller heads that essentially is a virtual rack system stored on your computer that has drum machines, arpeggiators, effects, VSTS- great for hip hop and electronic music.

Jethro,

I know Reason Studios. I would never have taken you for a hip-hop electronic kind of guy.

Color me surprised at your musical diversity! thumb
I love all music. Back in the day I had bunch of keyboard synthesizers and used to jam in college to all kinds of music. It wasn't until my mid 20's that I "discovered" classical music on the piano and I've been hooked since then because the music can be so challenging and exciting.


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Re: Can a Clavinova be good for practicing?
Rich Galassini #2966585 04/13/20 03:51 PM
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So— main difference between Clavinova and the nu1x, et al, is the number of parts in the keyboard and action?

Re: Can a Clavinova be good for practicing?
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Well the Clavinova has an action that sits underneath the keyboard, and a system of levers pulls the hammer up as you play, and that hammer isn't responsible for the sound. It's enough to give the sensation of playing a piano.

The Nu1x and other AvantGrands have an actual piano action inside, with the hammers replaced with some kind of plastic or carbon fibre, and as they pass through a laser it sends the signal to the sound module. The Clavinovas hit a button. It's entirely different.

Ok I'm simplifying it but that's the general idea.

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Got it. Thx.

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Rich Galassini #2966704 04/14/20 12:24 AM
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Joe80, just for clarification, (it is my understanding that) the AdvantGrand measures and records the actual keystroke.


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Re: Can a Clavinova be good for practicing?
Dave B #2966759 04/14/20 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Joe80, just for clarification, (it is my understanding that) the AdvantGrand measures and records the actual keystroke.

Only the NU1/X. The grand AG action is different.

It records the time for the hammer to pass a certain point. A metal attachment to the hammer shank blocks an LED light source as it passes on the way up. Measuring the time this takes gives the velocity of the hammer.

The key position needs to be measured as well.

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I have a Clavinova (CLP 440) only at the moment, even though I grew up with an acoustic. Although I would love to own an acoustic again, I honestly quite like my Clavinova. I do make sure that my action is never set to light, usually normal and sometimes heavy so that I won't feel tired if I did play on an acoustic here and there. Overall I think it would be a decent model to practice on for most players.

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Great ideas! These all make perfect sense. I guess I need to pull myself away from the Steinway and spend some time back on the Yamaha CP300. Thanks for sharing Rich!

Re: Can a Clavinova be good for practicing?
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Originally Posted by Ruth CM
I have a Clavinova (CLP 440) only at the moment, even though I grew up with an acoustic. Although I would love to own an acoustic again, I honestly quite like my Clavinova.

I love the action on my DP. I have a grand as well, but I can have fun on both. I can also do really repetitive stuff on the DP that would be very hard on the ears. 😁

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