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Casio PX-1000 Piano Tone vs Kawai ES110 Tone
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I'm curious about the opinions of Casio PX-1000 Piano sound vs Kawai ES110 Piano sound.

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Am I wrong that you had both?


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Originally Posted by rintincop
I'm curious about the opinions of Casio PX-1000 Piano sound vs Kawai ES110 Piano sound.

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Opinions vary as usual. Some have heard the pianos in real life and some only in sound samples.

I disliked the most often demonstrated variant of the "Hamburg Grand" on older Casios. The PX-S seems nicer. (And possibly the brighter variants in the older models too)

The ES-110 sound isn't quite as good as in more expensive Kawais.

But I still prefer it, I think.

I haven't heard either device in real life.

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It is worth noting that you shouldn't judge the es110 from demos, because as default the piano comes with an EQ optimized for its internal speakers. Kawai made the stupid decision that such EQ also affects line out sound. I noticed that all reviews forget to turn that EQ off, which results in an horrendous piercing tone.

If you want to hear the es110 tone, look for es100 demos. They have the same tone generator but the es100 has no EQ options.

I myself have the es110 and (with EQ off) think its samples are a lot better, more natural than the Casio. I even like its sound for classical pieces when paired with good speakers (Presonus Eris E5 in my case) or headphones.

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Originally Posted by RodrigoPon
It is worth noting that you shouldn't judge the es110 from demos, because as default the piano comes with an EQ optimized for its internal speakers. Kawai made the stupid decision that such EQ also affects line out sound. I noticed that all reviews forget to turn that EQ off, which results in an horrendous piercing tone.

If you want to hear the es110 tone, look for es100 demos. They have the same tone generator but the es100 has no EQ options.

I myself have the es110 and (with EQ off) think its samples are a lot better, more natural than the Casio. I even like its sound for classical pieces when paired with good speakers (Presonus Eris E5 in my case) or headphones.


I also have EQ turned off but only because I thought the internal speakers sounded best when I first bought piano. I never thought or knew about how that setting affects the output sound, thanks.


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Originally Posted by RodrigoPon
It is worth noting that you shouldn't judge the es110 from demos, because as default the piano comes with an EQ optimized for its internal speakers. Kawai made the stupid decision that such EQ also affects line out sound. I noticed that all reviews forget to turn that EQ off, which results in an horrendous piercing tone.

If you want to hear the es110 tone, look for es100 demos. They have the same tone generator but the es100 has no EQ options.

I myself have the es110 and (with EQ off) think its samples are a lot better, more natural than the Casio. I even like its sound for classical pieces when paired with good speakers (Presonus Eris E5 in my case) or headphones.


I also have EQ turned off but only because I thought the internal speakers sounded best when I first bought piano. I never thought or knew about how that setting affects the output sound, thanks.


I personally like the EQ set to "normal" for internal speakers, I find it less muddy and more defined. But it definately hurts the es110's tone for line out to decent speakers, and it's much better to have it "off".


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