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As the man said, it was Mozart. He isn't really considered avant garde and in fact stole most of his ideas from Salierei.

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Scales and other formal methods are a waste of time.
Here's a modern composer who proves it!


Even Stockhausen would be jealous!

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Here's some controversy: Steinways are completely overrated. Discuss.


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Here's some controversy: Steinways are completely overrated. Discuss.


I noticed no one disagreed with you yet. laugh


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Here's some controversy: Steinways are completely overrated. Discuss.


Just because they are considered the best in the world by the general public and most professional musicians, doesn't necessarily make them over-rated. I do, however, think they are over-priced if you consider the new retail price.


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Liberace was the greatest pianist ever.


Liberace was definitely the most famous and highest-paid *entertainer* of his day and probably influenced more people than almost any other pianist. In those ways he was "great". He was, however, also, a very technically capable pianist and musician, in addition to brilliant showman. He debuted with the Chicago Symphony at the tender age of 20 with Liszt's 2nd piano concerto to rave reviews.


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Here is a potential topic for discussion:

What do you think the impact of the COVID-19 virus will be on pianos manufactured in China going forward?

Discuss...


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Here's some controversy: Steinways are completely overrated. Discuss.


Just because they are considered the best in the world by the general public and most professional musicians, doesn't necessarily make them over-rated. I do, however, think they are over-priced if you consider the new retail price.

They are not considered the best.

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Here's some controversy: Steinways are completely overrated. Discuss.


Just because they are considered the best in the world by the general public and most professional musicians, doesn't necessarily make them over-rated. I do, however, think they are over-priced if you consider the new retail price.

They are not considered the best.



That’s an interesting comment. May I ask why you say that?

And what may I ask is your personal favorite or what brand do you consider the best?


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And perhaps even more important what brand do you think is considered the best by the public in general?


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Well Yamaha of course ..........
Well that is what I would have said when I was 16 ,so it must be true.

Anyway here's the great entertainer.



https://youtu.be/04u5sioNek8

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Well Yamaha of course ..........
Well that is what I would have said when I was 16 ,so it must be true.

Anyway here's the great entertainer.



https://youtu.be/04u5sioNek8

Well, Liberace was indeed a great entertainer, and a great pianist. And he liked Baldwin pianos.

His stage presence and personality was as good as his skills at the piano, which were beyond exceptional.

I enjoyed watching the video, Lady Bird. Thanks for posting it. smile

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I agree, quite something to turn The Flight of The Bumblebee into a Boogie Woogie!

Asking about the greatest piano in the world .,I believe I caught them out !
(I believe they thought I was going to say Sauter )
I mean what is the greatest brand piano in the world ?

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[...]I mean what is the greatest brand piano in the world ?


There is no "greatest" since many manufacturers, performers, and pianists have differing criteria.

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[...]I mean what is the greatest brand piano in the world ?


There is no "greatest" since many manufacturers, performers, and pianists have differing criteria.

Regards,

Perhaps that's a delusion Bruce .,Anyway I mean how would I know?

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There goes the controversy again !

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Steinway are by far the best pianos in the world

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Kool-Aid anybody?


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Kool-Aid anybody?



I was told Steinway doesn’t do Kool-Aid. It’s Steinway after all. They use Hawaiian Punch. wink


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