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Let's update the Piano VI List
#2961442 03/29/20 01:35 AM
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As we all have some extra time to spare, I thought it would make sense to update the "Piano Virtual Instruments" list. Please post suggestions for additions here or via PM (with links and other data if possible) and I will update the spreadsheet.

Spreadsheet is missing about 2 years of the newest VIs, some older VIs and some specialty pianos. Vas compiled a good list of Felt Pianos this month which should be incorporated also.

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2752919/digital-piano-master-sticky-thread.html

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...ianos-list-sounds-great.html#Post2960454

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I was thinking about exactly that ... but I was feeling too lazy to do anything about it.

Since you've moved to UNC/Chapel Hill ... not far from my home ... (no more Nation-State Policy Center, eh? smile ) maybe we could get together for coffee and discussion. smile smile smile

But seriously ... count me in.

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Off the top of my head, those new (and a few older) ones are missing:

Chocolate Audio - O.D.D. Grand Piano
Chocolate Audio - Steinbach Upright
FluffyAudio - My Piano
FluffyAudio - Scoring Piano

Production Voices - The Halfling
Pianoteq - C. Bechstein DG grand piano
Pianoteq - Ant. Petrof 275 grand piano
Pianoteq - Karsten collection

Sampletekk - 7CG (The Big One, and TVBO, The Very Big One, are there, which are based on the same piano, but 7CG uses other mics,. TVBO is actually 7CG, and The Big One together, that is, two mic positions in one library).


VSL - Synchron Concert D-274
VSL - Synchron Boesendorfer Upright (actually Bösendorfer, but the letter "ö", "o" with two dots above it, is sometimes shown wrongly/scrambled in character sets in the US, therefore replaced with "oe")
VILabs - Modern U

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Just found out the Wavesfactory Mercury is missing from the spreadsheet. How could we miss out on that one, but still include the Waves Grand Rhapsody. cool

As probably most members of this forum know, at least the regular posters, both libraries were sampled from the same Fazioli F228, which was owned by the Queen icon, Freddie Mercury (hence the name).


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I do not see the Art Vista Malmsjö, Virtual grand 3 and Supergrand.

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The VI spreadsheet lists these attributes for each entry:
  • Make
  • Model
  • Piano
  • Player
  • Price
  • Box or DL
  • Year
  • Link
  • Sample rate
  • Bit Depth
  • HDD usage
  • Half Pedaling
  • Sampling layers
  • Mic Perspectives
  • Comments

Make and model are mandatory.
Piano is highly important (but sometimes not available).
Price is very important, too.
The other attributes are not required, but should be supplied if available.

So ... who has the necessary information on the additions suggested by TheodorN and pianistje?

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What I found about the FluffyAudio and Chocolate Audio instruments. If I paste the info here, it'll be all over the place, so I put everything in an Excel document, which has about the same structure, as the original spreadsheet.

https://1drv.ms/x/s!AkN8QNnuM-SN1A6Hd1RU79MYCOKn?e=1UKEyY


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Special thanks to TheodorN and pianistje for some great contributions to the database. Below are the "new" pianos we am keying into the database now. Please let us know if there are more you would like to add:

AcustiX Bösendorfer Piano II
Art Vista Malmsjö,
Art Vista Virtual grand 3
Art Vista Supergrand
Chocolate Audio - O.D.D. Grand Piano
Chocolate Audio - Steinbach Upright
Dark Silence Sound Design dark grand piano
FluffyAudio - My Piano
FluffyAudio - Scoring Piano
Joachim's Piano
Jon Meyer Steinway Grand Piano Free
KeyPleezer FULL THE LIVINGROOM UPRIGHT PIANO
KeyPleezer Free THE LIVINGROOM UPRIGHT PIANO
ManMakesNoise The Lobby Piano
NoiseAsh Epic Piano
Production Voices - The Halfling
Pianoteq - C. Bechstein DG grand piano
Pianoteq - Ant. Petrof 275 grand piano
Pianoteq - Karsten collection
Pripyat "RADIOACTIVE PIANOS FROM THE CHERNOBYL EXCLUSION ZONE"
Sampletekk - 7CG
SpitFire Labs Free
Splash Sound Gentle Keys
VSL - Synchron Concert D-274
VSL - Synchron Boesendorfer Upright
VILabs - Modern U
WavesFactory Mercury
WavesFactory Mercury Light

Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Since you've moved to UNC/Chapel Hill ... not far from my home ... (no more Nation-State Policy Center, eh? smile ) maybe we could get together for coffee and discussion.
I'm fixing some buggy statistical models so a bit busy for coffee now unfortunately.

Re: Let's update the Piano VI List
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Some of these may duplicate the earlier contributions ... but here goes:
Code
Virtual Instrument                                              Piano
Acousticsamples B-Pian                                          Unknown
4Front TruePianos v1.9.5 (5 Piano models, modeling + samples)   Unknown
K2 model for Pianoteq 5 (pure modeling, no samples)             Unknown
Arturia Piano V (pure modeling, no samples)                     Unknown
AIR Music Mini Grand (7 piano models)                           Unknown
Galaxy Vintage D                                                Steinway D
Galaxy II Steinway                                              Steinway D
Synthogy Ivory II American Concert D                            Steinway D
Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos                                  Steinway D
Eastwest Quantum Leap Pianos                                    Steinway D
Spitfire Audio Hans Zimmer Piano                                Steinway D
VI Labs True Keys American Grand                                Steinway D
Steinberg The Grand 3                                           Steinway D
NI The Grandeur (by NI and Galaxy Instruments)                  Steinway D
XLN Addictive Keys Studio Grand                                 Steinway D
D4 Concert Grand model for Pianoteq 5                           Steinway D
Soniccouture The Hammersmith                                    Steinway D
Cinesamples Piano In Blue                                       Steinway D
e-instruments Session Keys Grand S                              Steinway D
Sound Magic Blue Grand                                          Steinway D
Sound Magic Thor                                                Steinway D
Acousticsamples Academic Grand                                  Steinway D
Imperfectsamples Walnut Concert Grand                           Steinway D
8Dio 1969 Steinway Piano for Kontakt                            Steinway D
8Dio 1928 Steinway Piano for Kontakt                            Steinway D
Acoustica Pianissimo Virtual Piano                              Steinway D
EZKeys Grand Piano                                              Steinway D
UVI Grand Piano Collection                                      Steinway D
Sampletekk Black Grand                                          Steinway D
Sampletekk Black                                                Steinway D
Chocolate Audio The 88 Keys Series Pianos - Model D             Steinway D
Cinesamples Jerry's Pianos freeware                             Steinway D
Hephaestus Steinway Grand 3 freeware                            Steinway D
Model B for Pianoteq 5                                          Steinway B
EZKeys Studio Grand                                             Steinway B
Art Vista Virtiual Grand Piano 3                                Steinway B
Ivy Audio Piano In 162 freeware                                 Steinway B
Cinematique Instruments Grand 3P                                Steinway A
Sonivox Eighty Eight Ensemble 2.5                               Steinway CD 327
Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos                                  Yamaha C7
Eastwest Quantum Leap Pianos                                    Yamaha C7
Acousticsamples C7 Grand                                        Yamaha C7
Steinberg The Grand 3                                           Yamaha C7
Production Voices Production Grand                              Yamaha C7
Impact Soundworks Pearl Concert Grand                           Yamaha C7
Spectrasonics Keyscape                                          Yamaha C7
Orange Tree Samples Evolution Rosewood Grand                    Yamaha C7
Sound Magic Ruby Grand                                          Yamaha C7
UVI Grand Piano Collection                                      Yamaha C7
UVI IRCAM Prepared Piano                                        Yamaha C7
Sound Magic Piano One (freeware)                                Yamaha C7
Sampletekk 7CG                                                  Yamaha C7
Sampletekk TVBO Studio Grand Piano                              Yamaha C7
Sampletekk The Big One                                          Yamaha C7
Chocolate Audio The 88 Keys Series Pianos - Model 7             Yamaha C7
K-Sounds Signature Piano for Kontakt                            Yamaha C7
K-Sounds Epic Grand for Kontakt                                 Yamaha C7
Garritan CFX Concert Grand                                      Yamaha CFX
YC5 Rock Piano for Pianoteq 5                                   Yamaha C5
The Salamander Grand Piano (freeware)                           Yamaha C5
Production Voices Studio Grand Piano LE                         Yamaha C3
NI Alicia's Keys                                                Yamaha C3 Neo
e-instruments Session Keys Grand Y                              Yamaha CFIIIS
The Maestro Concert Grand freeware                              Yamaha CF3
Precisionsound Amore Grand Piano v2 freeware                    Yamaha Grand
The Summer Grand freeware                                       Yamaha Disklavier Pro
Acousticsamples Kawai EX Pro                                    Kawai EX
Production Voices Estate Grand Piano                            Kawai GS
Sound Iron Emotional Piano                                      Kawai Grand
C. Bechstein Digital Grand                                      Bechstein D-282
Eastwest Quantum Leap Pianos                                    Bechstein D-280
VI Labs True Keys German Grand                                  Bechstein
NI The Maverick                                                 Bechstein
Steinberg The Grand 3                                           Bosendorfer 280
Galaxy II Vienna Grand                                          Bosendorfer 290
Synthogy Ivory II Grand Pianos                                  Bosendorfer 290
VSL Vienna Imperial                                             Bosendorfer 290
Eastwest Quantum Leap Pianos                                    Bosendorfer 290
Sound Magic Imperial Grand                                      Bosendorfer 290
Sampletekk The Emperor Mk II                                    Bosendorfer 290
Galaxy II German Baby Grand                                     Bluthner Model 150
Bluthner Model One for Pianoteq 5                               Bluthner Model One
Aria Sounds Silk Piano                                          Fazioli
Synthogy Ivory II Italian Grand                                 Fazioli F308
VI Labs True Keys Italian Grand                                 Fazioli F308
Imperfect Samples Fazioli Ebony Concert Grand                   Fazioli F308
Sound Magic Fazioli Rose                                        Fazioli F308
UVI Grand Piano Collection                                      Fazioli F278
Wavesfactory Mercury                                            Fazioli F228
VI Labs Ravenscroft 275                                         Ravenscroft 275
ImperfectSamples White Baby Grand                               Hohner White Baby Grand
Art Vista Malmsjo GVI                                           Malmsjo GVI
Sampletekk Blue Grand 2                                         Malmsjo Grand
Sampletekk White Grand                                          Malmsjo Grand
Adam Monroe's Austrian Grand                                    Bruder Mikula Wien
Acousticsamples OldBlackGrand                                   Pleyel F-71240
Acousticsamples A-Pian                                          Gaveau
Grotrian Concert Royal grand piano for Pianoteq                 Grotrian Concert Royal
UVI Grand Piano Collection                                      Steinway D
UVI Grand Piano Collection                                      Yamaha C7
UVI Grand Piano Collection                                      Fazioli F278 
UVI IRCAM Prepared Piano                                        Yamaha C7

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We've got work to do, so it's not wise to add another one, but I'll still do so. eek

UVI Augmented Piano. For a moment I thought it was the same as Ircan Prepared Piano, but now I see it isn't.

Was wondering about the Sampletekk pianos, there are so many undercategories of each one. Per has used to publish MK II (Make two) of most of his piano VSTs, adding symphatetic resonance, among other features.

Maybe it's redundant to add the MK II versions, after all we direct people to the respective websites, where they can explore all the offerings for themselves.

I'm not sure if I'll have much time next week, maybe returning to work, we'll see. This is a time-consuming task, but I was wondering if we can automate it to some point, like with scripting, if anybody's into that.


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Thanks Mac. We include all the pianos you listed except some free ones and two very old ones. Are any good enough to add?

2008 Acoustica Pianissimo Virtual Piano Steinway D
2012 Cinematique Instruments Grand 3P Steinway A

Sound Magic Piano One (freeware) Yamaha C7
The Salamander Grand Piano (freeware) Yamaha C5
The Maestro Concert Grand freeware Yamaha CF3
Precisionsound Amore Grand Piano v2 freeware Yamaha Grand
The Summer Grand freeware Yamaha Disklavier Pro
Cinesamples Jerry's Pianos freeware Steinway D
Hephaestus Steinway Grand 3 freeware Steinway D
Ivy Audio Piano In 162 freeware Steinway B

Thanks TheodorN - we added the UVI Augmented Piano.

The SampleTekk catalogue is outrageous so maybe we just add the pianos that would be popular to classical & jazz players here. Any recommendations to add?

My secretary forgot about the Felt pianos. We will need to add those as well. Everything else is updated.

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We added the Felt pianos so the VI Piano database is updated for 2020 Spring, pending Mac's comments on the freeware or anyone else's suggestions

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Make: Native Instruments
Model: Noire (Pure and Felt)
Piano: Yamaha CFX 9’
Player: Nils Frahm
Price: USD $149 ($74.50 on sale days like Black Friday)
Box or DL: DL
Year: 2019
Link: https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/keys/noire/


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Thanks Burkie, updated. Noire is quite popular both here and with producers in the audio visual worlds.

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Just realised 'Player' is ambiguous, do you mean the human piano player or the software sample player?

Software player is: Kontact - both Free and Full editions.

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Originally Posted by Burkie
Just realised 'Player' is ambiguous, do you mean the human piano player or the software sample player?

Software player is: Kontact - both Free and Full editions.
"Player" refers to the software player, so Kontakt in the case of Noire, as you noted.

The Noire team identified Nils Frahm the pianist who played the VI's samples. Outside of Pianoteq, VIs rarely identify the pianist AFAIK.

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This is true newer player, (although) many sample companies are beginning to name, recognize and even NAME their instruments after the performers. I’ve seen libraries name their clarinet, oboe, flute, etc libraries after the players and even include a photo of them and short bio in the GUI. How marvelous is that!


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Thanks for the updates VladK - the secretary updated the PianoWorld VI database accordingly.

FYI - I met the CEntrance founder a few times. He is a good bloke and his products are popular in Japan. His portable headphone amps are very powerful and sound good to my ears.

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