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Bennevis, I hope you get through this with your health and humor intact, and that you are able to continue to play, to share your playing, and to share your suggestions of new music to play. You have pointed me to several composers and pieces I love to play ON MY PIANO (just trying to keep this PIANO WORLD thread relevant to PIANOS!).

I've been checking in with an acquaintance who is a nurse; I only know him because we take lessons from the same teacher, and we both love Piazzolla. I mostly manage not to get scared about where this is all going, but I think all of us may lose some dear and interesting people to this virus in the next 12-18 months. Please let us be unfailingly kind to one another here.

Off to practice "Farewell to Stromness," for which I thank you, Bennevis.

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Bennevis, I’m clapping for you and your colleagues!


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Thanks Qwerty53 and WeakLeftHand!

It was indeed very uplifting for all of us who work in the NHS when the whole nation (including the PM, who's now also been infected with Covid-19) showed their appreciation with their public applause last night, following in the footsteps of the Italians and Spanish who have been doing it for their own health workers. That's a lot more applause than I ever got for my recitals wink .

I must admit there have been some moments in the past week when this piece seemed most appropriate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF-dRyoEe0E

....but as always, Wolfie came to the rescue with his optimism in the face of adversity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr59kJXVKQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U37SB4i54JU

I think I'll be playing a lot more Mozart in the coming weeks: he always seems to strike the right chord at the right time.....


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For those who might be interested by the very last survey of prof. Raoult , today
( Marseille / France)

/https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

"In conclusion, we confirm the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine associated with azithromycin in the treatment of COVID-19 and its potential effectiveness in the early impairment of
contagiousness. Given the urgent therapeutic need to manage this disease with effective and safe drugs and given the negligible cost of both hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, we believe that other teams should urgently evaluate this therapeutic strategy both to avoid the spread of the disease and to treat patients before severe irreversible respiratory complications take hold."

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Originally Posted by rolex67
For those who might be interested by the very last survey of prof. Raoult , today
( Marseille / France)

/https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

"In conclusion, we confirm the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine associated with azithromycin in the treatment of COVID-19 and its potential effectiveness in the early impairment of
contagiousness. Given the urgent therapeutic need to manage this disease with effective and safe drugs and given the negligible cost of both hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, we believe that other teams should urgently evaluate this therapeutic strategy both to avoid the spread of the disease and to treat patients before severe irreversible respiratory complications take hold."


Yes, the results are encouraging but this study was in 24 patients so a larger sample size is needed before a conclusion can be reached regarding efficacy. Safety will also be evaluated as hydrocloroquine and azithromycin both prolong one of the cardiac intervals (QTc).

This is not to diminish the hopefulness we all have; we all are anxiously awaiting great results that we can cheer from the rooftops. Just remember, other drugs are being tested as well in case this one ends up being not as promising as it looks. There is a huge international effort, of which we can all be proud.


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For those who might be interested by the very last survey of prof. Raoult , today
( Marseille / France)

/https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

"In conclusion, we confirm the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine associated with azithromycin in the treatment of COVID-19 and its potential effectiveness in the early impairment of
contagiousness. Given the urgent therapeutic need to manage this disease with effective and safe drugs and given the negligible cost of both hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, we believe that other teams should urgently evaluate this therapeutic strategy both to avoid the spread of the disease and to treat patients before severe irreversible respiratory complications take hold."


Yes, the results are encouraging but this study was in 24 patients so a larger sample size is needed before a conclusion can be reached regarding efficacy. Safety will also be evaluated as hydrocloroquine and azithromycin both prolong one of the cardiac intervals (QTc).

This is not to diminish the hopefulness we all have; we all are anxiously awaiting great results that we can cheer from the rooftops. Just remember, other drugs are being tested as well in case this one ends up being not as promising as it looks. There is a huge international effort, of which we can all be proud.


It's not just that it was a small trial. It was also open-label (which can lead to bias). The most troubling aspect, though, was that six patients dropped out of the treatment group and none out of the control group. Patients that are lost to the study should be counted as failures; not doing so is a no-no. Larger, better designed trials are needed and are no doubt underway.

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In summary, 26 patients were enrolled in the treatment group, with 16 controls. Six patients dropped out of the treatment group: 3 went to the ICU, one dropped out due to nausea, one left the hospital (apparently recovered?) and one died. No one left the control group. There were 15 male and 21 female patients. 6 of them were asymptomatic, 22 had upper respiratory symptoms, and 8 had lower respiratory tract symptoms (all of those had confirmed pneumonia by imaging).
Coronavirus: Some Clinical Trial Data


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It was indeed very uplifting for all of us who work in the NHS when the whole nation (including the PM, who's now also been infected with Covid-19) showed their appreciation with their public applause last night, following in the footsteps of the Italians and Spanish who have been doing it for their own health workers. That's a lot more applause than I ever got for my recitals wink ..

A dozen of my neighbors and I were out in the street at 8 p.m. last night “making a joyful noise” in honor of healthcare workers. Tonight we will go to the other side of our building and do the same.

Bennevis, before I go listen to whatever you linked, I’ll suggest perhaps a dose of Beethoven. Why, you ask? Because:

As the Marcia Funebre followed the battle, the scherzo follows as the end of burial and mourning: the return to life and to joy. That journey, from suffering to joy, is a story Beethoven enacted over and over in his music, and in the whole of his life.

… Again and again in his music he returned to an ending in joy.


Yesterday while listening to Beethoven’s Opus 109 I was moved to track down that passage I recalled from Jan Swafford’s biography of LvB.

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Just checking in, how is everyone doing? There are so many regulars absent from posts lately, I'm kind of worried about them. I've sent a few private messages out and hope I hear from them. Some I've found on this thread, thank goodness!

I'm ok. Hubby is out of a job now, a situation we've dealt with too many times in this past year. We just can't seem to find our feet after he was laid off last June. Stability is elusive. Otherwise we're fine, staying home but we have a big yard, so we're outside when the weather is nice. I've been playing a lot, but sometimes the news is so overwhelming that I just don't have the heart to play. I thank god for my teachers, who, even at a distance are so tremendously helpful and uplifting.

I look back fondly to just a few weeks ago, before things really got bad. I took a drive to Rochester to buy a used Jansen bench in Rochester, about an hour and 20 min. away. While there, I visited my friend's piano shop, and I remember how normal everything was. I wasn't afraid, it was a really nice short trip, and I was so happy to have acquired this amazing bench. How things have changed.

I hope you're all OK and safe and healthy. I hope I hear from my missing piano friends here. I hope we all get through this, and that the worst of it is soon over.

Take care, my dear piano family. ❤️❤️❤️


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I'm kind of maybe naively hoping that when this situation clears up a bit, people might have a regained appreciation for socialising and community, and perhaps step away from spending their whole day tapping in hysterical neurotic balderdash in to Twitter. It's not even Facebook any more. Seems to me that Twitter is where you find the hysteria.

I much prefer forums like this. Although when I joined this forum I was hoping to find a nice peaceful place, but amusingly enough, there are loads of arguments here. It's just that they're about really funny things, like should I play it with the fifth finger or the fourth finger and so on.

Good luck, ebonykawai, I hope things pick up for you after this. Enjoy the yard. It's at times like this that it comes into its own.

I guess Skype will start to get very popular for lessons now.

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Dogperson and stubbie : NO!!!

As I said, it’s the very last survey, from YESTERDAY...

Around 80 persons are involved in this test, now....

Please, read the survey before commenting..... it’s always better... :-)

And have a look on their website to have the original ......

Hope this will work on a large scale.... we should know very quickly, as a lot of doctors use
His method now to cure people in hospitals ( at least in France).

Because for the time being, we have nothing more....

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Originally Posted by bennevis
I believe I'm the only person here working on the front line -

I am sure many of us are...I am suddenly working day and night to manage the massive unemployment crisis caused by the prevention actions and finding more health care workers. Health care professionals are not the only ones who are getting overwhelmed by this...and soon it will be the social sercives as well, since the isolation will aggravate existing problems and create new ones.

In just a few weeks we have gone from pretty good prospects to a recession that will last for some time. No-one knows how long and how bad it will get. In a way the society has turned upside down almost overnight. Civil rights are being restricted in a way that hasn't happened after the wars...So it's bad, but the politicians really do not have a choice. Those who suddenly have a lot of time in their hands can keep complaining in social media, but those who are in charge have to make decisions with little information and they will be responsible afterwards, it's really no fun. The world has become so complex that whatever you do will have unpredicted consequences. Personally I think global economics were already broken in many ways before this, so we will just have to see if some things will get more reasonable afterwards. I am sceptic though...

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All this cause some Chinese guy just had to eat a bat " mm delicious ill think Ill eat this bat"

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All this cause some Chinese guy just had to eat a bat " mm delicious ill think Ill eat this bat"


That transmission directly by eating a bat is no longer presumed from research— and more genetic code testing is being done. It may have been, but still not certain, from a snake eating a bat and then a person eating the snake.

Pictures of a woman eating bat soup are confirmed as from 2016 and from Palau, not from a market in China.


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Originally Posted by rolex67
Dogperson and stubbie : NO!!!

As I said, it’s the very last survey, from YESTERDAY...

Around 80 persons are involved in this test, now....

Please, read the survey before commenting..... it’s always better... :-)

And have a look on their website to have the original ......

Hope this will work on a large scale.... we should know very quickly, as a lot of doctors use
His method now to cure people in hospitals ( at least in France).

Because for the time being, we have nothing more....
Copying and pasting your link leads me to a home improvement site.
This newer paper, which is a draft, does have more patients (some of which are from the first study), but, for one thing, no mention of a control group. Untreated people do recover, so the determination of whether or not a treatment helps, or not, should be in comparison to a similar, but untreated group. They might have a control group, but I didn't see it in the draft. Let's hope additional information is forthcoming.


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Ultimately, it may be less interesting which country started it than which countr(ies) lost control of it.

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Stubbie, you are right, it’s for the time being a draft, and it’s clearly mentioned if you go directly to the website of this hospital.
It says that, due to this unstoppable contamination, before realizing a complete study, they wanted to show up that first draft, at least to inform all the medical community about their new results.
In that hurry, it’s not time for them to stick to a real « test program »...
They only have 80 beds.... no way to leave half of the patients with a placebo ( in this kind of «  war »....)
We will know very soon if this strategy works or not....
For the moment,´it seems yes.
But I agree, it’s not the way normal tests are conducted.
Do we have time?

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Originally Posted by rolex67
Stubbie, you are right, it’s for the time being a draft, and it’s clearly mentioned if you go directly to the website of this hospital.
It says that, due to this unstoppable contamination, before realizing a complete study, they wanted to show up that first draft, at least to inform all the medical community about their new results.
In that hurry, it’s not time for them to stick to a real « test program »...
They only have 80 beds.... no way to leave half of the patients with a placebo ( in this kind of «  war »....)
We will know very soon if this strategy works or not....
For the moment,´it seems yes.
But I agree, it’s not the way normal tests are conducted.
Do we have time?

The issue is that without a control and without adequate trial standards, you will never know if it really works. In the meantime, millions of people will get treated with the drugs and some of them will suffer harm from those drugs, or they could have been treated by other means. I hope and pray that it works We certainly need some help. Okay, a lot of help.

(P.S. I'm not going to post again on the trials, as in my opinion this is not the place for that kind of discussion.)


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Ultimately, it may be less interesting which country started it than which countr(ies) lost control of it.

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Lost control or never had control to begin with, I'd say. The US is a wreck. It's good that we'll be getting some cash via a stimulus check and unemployment, but who knows when that will actually happen. It's impossible to reach anyone by phone. We are also without health insurance now that my hubby is out of work. Not so great, being in the middle of a pandemic that no one here can seem to stanch. At this point, I'm perfectly happy to be isolated, just so I don't punch anyone out of frustration.


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Ultimately, it may be less interesting which country started it than which countr(ies) lost control of it.

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Lost control or never had control to begin with, I'd say. The US is a wreck. It's good that we'll be getting some cash via a stimulus check and unemployment, but who knows when that will actually happen. It's impossible to reach anyone by phone. We are also without health insurance now that my hubby is out of work. Not so great, being in the middle of a pandemic that no one here can seem to stanch. At this point, I'm perfectly happy to be isolated, just so I don't punch anyone out of frustration.

Aye, Lisa.

BTW, are you taking a brief respite from this all and watching the World Piano Day livestream?


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Here in California we are under a "shelter in place" mandate and all of our religious services have been temporarily suspended. Therefore, we are providing worship services for our church online. Here is my first attempt at online worship. I was able to edit out a lot of the wind noise (except for a couple of spots), but I will have to work on improving my mic.



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