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My headphone jack broke in the socket
#2961156 03/28/20 02:51 AM
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I never thought I would have to be asking this laugh

I removed my headphones from the jack and lo and behold, the cover came off the plug and is now stuck in the socket.

I'm talking about this bit here:

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The pointy end has actually detached from the rest of the plug and is now stuck. I attempted to stick the rest of the jack back in, but it didnt work and now I can no longer use headphones with my keyboard.

Any ideas?? I was thinking of sticking crazy glue on a qtip and trying to remove it that way, I really don't want to take apart the piano.

I also bought the piano in 2014 so the warranty is most definitely expired!

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boy, that sucks ! crazy glue? uhmm... risk: I wouldn't do it.

Some jack inlet may be open at the bottom

If so you should be able to, gently, push it so that it falls from the other side, (inside the instrument and then it'll stay there forever.)

But I have no idea whether yours is like this, gotta check it out and be very sure before you do it.

maybe If you had some pictures of the inside of your keyboard... check on the web

before you do anything, use a small flashlight to inspect the inside of the inlet and check what's the situation like: maybe there's something you can do with a pair of thin tweezers...

disclaimer: "do this at your own risk... (etc.)"

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I second Ragtime2k's suggestion. You MIGHT be able to push the plug through.
It's difficult to predict without knowing exactly WHICH jack is in your equipment.
Here is a link to a line of jacks from Switchcraft.
http://www.switchcraft.com/productsummary.aspx?Parent=1131
If you click on the PDF link for one of the types of jacks shown, you'll get a drawing like this...
http://www.switchcraft.com/Drawings/EH35MM_SERIES_CD.pdf
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Is the bit that is stuck in a hollow tube? If so perhaps get a thin self tapping or wood screw and try pushing that gently into the tube, rotating it and pulling out. It might provide enough grip to do the trick.

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I took a phono jack out to the garage to see how hard it is to break apart and was surprised that it's pretty easy. The tip was the easiest to break off, the ring was hard to separate from the sleeve, and the sleeve broke free of the jacket pretty easy. I thought these things were pretty indestructible, so I was surprised to see how relatively fragile they are.

The tip on mine broke off with a small nub of metal sticking out the back, it's the bit that connects the tip to the ring. So that might make it clumsy to push on with something flat. If you had a piece of small copper tubing, like you use for hobby projects, it might align itself around that nub and make it easier to push the tip straight through the female connector.


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Alligator forceps are probably your best shot short of replacing the jack. I would avoid the crazy glue idea except as a last resort.

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Maybe someone in the digital piano area could guide you better than I, but I would open the case. If you damage the jack, or if the remnant of the plug falls in the wrong place, that could cause trouble.


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gwing #2961428 03/29/20 12:31 AM
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Yes! the pointy bit was actually hollow and that is what is stuck in there. My plug (before I tossed it) was just the black ring and some skinny metal sticking out that was covered by the pointy bit. I'm afraid to try and push it through, I'm not sure if it will make headphone jack no longer work. My digital piano is a Casio WK6500, if that helps.

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If you get sound without headphones, the jack is still good. If you damage the jack, chances are that it will only work with headphones, or not at all.

Inserting a plug in a jack opens the circuit which normally goes to the speakers, so the speakers do not sound. If the jack is damaged, that circuit will remain open, and possibly not contact a headphone plug properly.


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This is a photo showing how the tip of a jack plug (stereo or mono) sits in relation to the socket. Note that the tip is held just by a curved piece that acts as a spring. As the tip is hollow I suggest that you try to extract by using a bamboo kebab skewer or something similar in thickness. Using the flat end of the stick coat it with rubber cement like the kind used for bicycle inner tube repair. Gently insert the stick until it stops and rotate it so that you are coating the inside of the tip. Then remove the stick which will probably come out without the tip. Now wait ten minutes for the rubber cement to get tacky and then gently insert it into the tip. Do not rotate it this time. Leave the stick in there for 30 minutes after which gently pull the stick. You are trying to get the tip slide out from under the spring.
Let us know how you get on. Note do not use super glue as if it get on to the socket contacts it will insulate them and you may not get the socket to conduct the audio signal. Even if rubber cement gets on to a contact it will get rubbed off once you start inserting and removing a new plug.
This is a 12V keyboard with an external power supply or batteries so if you do decide to open it up than there is no risk of electric shock. If this does not work from the photo you can see that normally the socket has an open end so you should be able to push the broken part all the way through although its better to get it removed in case it falls and jams against an electronic part.
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That's a clever solution, Ian - I like it!

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Looking at the nice photo from Ian, if it is built like that I think my preferred method would be to open the case and push it out from the inside.

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It's steel, have you tried a magnet? A tiny rare earth magnet would probably do it.


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These days headphone jacks are hermetically sealed, so if you push them too hard, they will be destroyed. The residue can be removed with pointed tweezers, bent hard wire or a drill bit.
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Originally Posted by MarkL
It's steel, have you tried a magnet? A tiny rare earth magnet would probably do it.

More probably nickel plated brass
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It's steel, have you tried a magnet? A tiny rare earth magnet would probably do it.

More probably nickel plated brass
Ian

Yes I would have expected that too, but the one I broke apart was magnetic. I went and checked the other ones in my box of old and seldom used connectors. About half are magnetic and half are not, but they all are plated so you can't tell what's underneath. Steel is not the greatest choice but it is cheap. I think I'll bring a magnet the next time I buy a connector so I know what I'm buying.


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It's exceedingly unlikely to be an open jack like the picture in Beemer's post. Much more likely it is an enclosed jack soldered directly to a circuit board. I'd think twice about using magnets.

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The headphone jack on my Tascam recorder has become very finicky, so while I'm trying to find something like a TV or VCR repair place to do a few little solder jobs, I have plugged the output jacks on the back of the device into a little Mackie mixer, which has its own headphone jack.

The workaround works pretty well.

MrsM, have you thought of taking it to a local place like Guitar Center, which has a repair department? I'm tempted to suggest trying to contact Casio, but that way lies madness. Now that I think of it, Music Village, where I buy scores, has someone they send these little repair jobs to.


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