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Quick Question - Sibelius "Valse Triste"
#2956466 03/11/20 04:32 PM
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You guys got me obsessed with grades and now you're paying the price with my incessant questions about them ha

-Nah, I was just wondering where you think the piano version of Sibelius's Valse Triste might be on the grading scale. It doesn't appear to be listed on pianosyllabus.com. A guesstimate would suffice, I'm just curious.


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Re: Quick Question - Sibelius "Valse Triste"
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It is a diploma level piece.


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Re: Quick Question - Sibelius "Valse Triste"
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Ok! Thank you so much, I wouldn't have suspected that. But then I've never even seen the sheet music, and just hearing a piece doesn't always provide the correct impression.


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You can find one arrangement on imslp under arrangement and transcription, so you can try out by yourself and see if that works for you.

https://imslp.org/wiki/2_Pieces_from_Kuolema%2C_Op.44_(Sibelius%2C_Jean)

Re: Quick Question - Sibelius "Valse Triste"
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Originally Posted by Sidokar
You can find one arrangement on imslp under arrangement and transcription, so you can try out by yourself and see if that works for you.

https://imslp.org/wiki/2_Pieces_from_Kuolema%2C_Op.44_(Sibelius%2C_Jean)

Thanks, Sidokar, I do have that one, I was just wondering what level it would be at. I'm still unused to the grading system, which simply wasn't used where I grew up, at least not back then, so now I'm curious to fit everything in there smile


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Re: Quick Question - Sibelius "Valse Triste"
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Originally Posted by Sibylle
I'm still unused to the grading system, which simply wasn't used where I grew up, at least not back then, so now I'm curious to fit everything in there smile

If you're interested in the grading system as used by ABRSM/Trinity (UK), AMEB (Australia) and RCM (Canada), have a look at this list of commonly-played pieces by students:

https://qualifications.pearson.com/...evel-Music-Difficulty-Levels-Booklet.pdf

......which corresponds to ABRSM/Trinity and AMEB, both of which go up to Grade 8. (If you see level 9 on the list, it means the piece is just above Grade 8 but not probably quite diploma level).

To convert to RCM levels (which go up to 10), multiply by 1.25.


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I think it depends which version you take. There are transcriptions for various levels. The one on imslp i would say is early advanced level.

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Originally Posted by Sidokar
I think it depends which version you take. There are transcriptions for various levels. The one on imslp i would say is early advanced level.

I thought Sibylle is talking about Sibelius's own transcription:

http://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/9/91/IMSLP609426-PMLP26111-Sibelius.pdf

Sibelius has transcribed quite a few of his most popular orchestral pieces for solo piano, including Finlandia.


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Re: Quick Question - Sibelius "Valse Triste"
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Originally Posted by bennevis

I thought Sibylle is talking about Sibelius's own transcription:

http://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/9/91/IMSLP609426-PMLP26111-Sibelius.pdf

Yes, this is the version I was on about. Sorry, I might have been clearer smile

Thanks for the link! That's an interesting booklet, I've saved it.

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