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Kawai - no more distributor in Italy #2952093 02/27/20 07:28 AM
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Testing Kawai digital pianos in Italy is less easy than one could think.

For instance, here in Rome, while a large assortment of models from other brands (Yamaha, Roland, Korg, Nord, Casio, Viscount, you name it...) can easily be found in all the major (and most minor) music stores, only few models (like one or two) from Kawai are readily available for testing and only a couple of stores have them, too.

As far as I know, the problem exist in the rest of Italy as well.

Most models can only be ordered, so one has to buy them for what they are on paper. (no store would order an instrument they don't already have unless you buy it first giving a down payment.)

On top of that, many models are not available at all, even if you order them online.

Apparently, this is due to the fact the Italian Kawai distributor has some kind of problem (someone said that he's dead, which IS a problem, when you think...)

So, apparently, Italy does not have a direct Kawai distributor, at the present time.

All I know from my usual music store is that they are getting in touch with a distributor from Spain to try and deal with them. This will take time, probably months, I've been told.

I would expect Kawai to find a solution to this issue.

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Re: Kawai - no more distributor in Italy [Re: Ragtime2k] #2952097 02/27/20 07:48 AM
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According to Kawai's website it used to be PIANOFORTE ITALIA S.R.L. in Milano, but their website seems to be gone. Why don't you order at Thomann? Free delivery to Italy for orders over 199 Euro (https://www.thomann.de/it/helpdesk_shipping.html) and 30-day money back (https://www.thomann.de/it/helpdesk_moneyback.html).

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Hello Ragtime2k,

Kawai instruments were distributed throughout Italy by Furcht & C. from 1972 until the end of 2019.
From 2020, the distributor for Kawai instruments in Italy has changed to Pianofote Italia S.R.L.

For more information, please contact the distributor directly:

Pianoforte Italia S.R.L.
Vรญa Larga 8, 20122 Milano, Italy

Tel: +39-3925676011 / +39-3925676012
Mail: info@pianoforte.it
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Kind regards,
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Re: Kawai - no more distributor in Italy [Re: Kawai James] #2952102 02/27/20 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Hello Ragtime2k,

Kawai instruments were distributed throughout Italy by Furcht & C. from 1972 until the end of 2019.
From 2020, the distributor for Kawai instruments in Italy has changed to Pianofote Italia S.R.L.

For more information, please contact the distributor directly:

Pianofote Italia S.R.L.
Vรญa Larga 8, 20122 Milano, Italy

Tel: +39-3925676011 / +39-3925676012
Mail: info@pianoforte.it
(website currently under construction)

Kind regards,
James
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Of course you know better! Sorry for my wrong assumption...

Re: Kawai - no more distributor in Italy [Re: Ragtime2k] #2952115 02/27/20 08:48 AM
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hi Martinez and James smile

thanks for your reply.

I just called Pianoforte Italia and they confirmed the actual distributor is in Spain, so basically they are a sort of "bridge" between distributor and stores in Italy.

The gentleman told me they relieved the Kawai distribution since the 1st of January, thus there was actually a problem, which I mentioned in my post, with the previous distributor.

So it'll take some time to go back to "normality" but we're getting there...

The fact remains that only two stores in Rome deal with Kawai digital pianos (acoustic can be found anywhere, no problem) and for what I can tell by the phone calls I made, a similar situation can be found throughout Italy.

Let's hope things will improve with this "new" (..?) distributor.

I know a guy who had an MP7SE shipped from Germany...

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Could this be a Ndrangheta vs Yakuza situation. If you tell me there are Dexibell and Fatar/Studiologic products sold and not Kawai, it gets too suspicious!


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Could this be a Ndrangheta vs Yakuza situation. If you tell me there are Dexibell and Fatar/Studiologic products sold and not Kawai, it gets too suspicious!


But Yamaha, Roland and Casio are there.... Do you mean Kawai didn't pay enough protection money? smile.

Maybe what we need is for these gangs to "work it out" between themselves. I watched a documentary once about how local gangs divide up territory, and they seem to have a system worked out. Oddly, it involves a lot of singing, dancing and snapping of fingers, so maybe having a keyboard around would be helpful...


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Could this be a Ndrangheta vs Yakuza situation. If you tell me there are Dexibell and Fatar/Studiologic products sold and not Kawai, it gets too suspicious!


But Yamaha, Roland and Casio are there.... Do you mean Kawai didn't pay enough protection money? smile.

Maybe what we need is for these gangs to "work it out" between themselves. I watched a documentary once about how local gangs divide up territory, and they seem to have a system worked out. Oddly, it involves a lot of singing, dancing and snapping of fingers, so maybe having a keyboard around would be helpful...

I think you meant "having a Kawai keyboard around" cool

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Could this be a Ndrangheta vs Yakuza situation. If you tell me there are Dexibell and Fatar/Studiologic products sold and not Kawai, it gets too suspicious!


But Yamaha, Roland and Casio are there.... Do you mean Kawai didn't pay enough protection money? smile.

Maybe what we need is for these gangs to "work it out" between gangs


consider they told me the other guy is DEAD, but they didn't tell me "how", so...
HAS GOT to be it... wink

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Could this be a Ndrangheta vs Yakuza situation. If you tell me there are Dexibell and Fatar/Studiologic products sold and not Kawai, it gets too suspicious!


But Yamaha, Roland and Casio are there.... Do you mean Kawai didn't pay enough protection money? smile.

Maybe what we need is for these gangs to "work it out" between gangs


consider they told me the other guy is DEAD, so...
HAS GOT to be it... wink

You're entering dangerous grounds here... Very brave for somebody living in Rome shocked

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They call me "Braveheart"...
you should see me running around shouting:
FREEDOOOM!!!
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Originally Posted by Ragtime2k
They call me "Braveheart"...
you should see me running around shouting:
FREEDOOOM!!!
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I thought the most dangerous thing to do right now in Italy was to cough in public places ๐Ÿ™€


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Re: Kawai - no more distributor in Italy [Re: Ragtime2k] #2952168 02/27/20 10:47 AM
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I thought the most dangerous thing to do right now in Italy was to cough in public places ๐Ÿ™€


right you are: they can lynch you, for that...

Re: Kawai - no more distributor in Italy [Re: CyberGene] #2952209 02/27/20 12:07 PM
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They call me "Braveheart"...
you should see me running around shouting:
FREEDOOOM!!!
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I thought the most dangerous thing to do right now in Italy was to cough in public places ๐Ÿ™€


My cousins leave near Venice and are very distressed over this situation and how itโ€™s being handled by the government.



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Originally Posted by Tenor1
My cousins leave near Venice and are very distressed over this situation and how itโ€™s being handled by the government.


The government is handling the situation quite well, imho.

Italian people always tend to blame on the government even if it rains or there is too much sun.

Nobody could handle this kind of issues better or differently.

Besides, this fact has been blown out of proportion by the media: it is a CHINESE problem, it is actually NOT a problem in Italy and, so far, it's sole purpose is to give a living to the journalists and a reason for propaganda to the politics.

There are measures of prevention in act but that doesn't mean there's an actual pandemics in Italy.

besides a pair of over 80 y.o. Chinese gents who died of "mixed causes", after THOUSANDS of screenings NOBODY is ACTUALLY positive to the virus, or maybe there are just a couple of suspect cases to be confirmed.

It's a good thing to keep the guard up but...

the medias make their living on terror and fear, that's their job and nobody can do anything about it. They steer not happy until they cause a general psychosis to make them to sell newspapers.

Some researchers from a specialized hospital in Rome have finally isolated the virus and gave the results internationally for others to cooperate in finding a cure or a vaccine for it. The problem is not in Italy, it is in other countries, which are very good at covering their situation...

but... we are quite off topic, aren't we?

let's go back to the yakuza... wink

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Originally Posted by Ragtime2k
besides a pair of over 80 y.o. Chinese gents who died of "mixed causes", after THOUSANDS of screenings NOBODY is ACTUALLY positive to the virus, or maybe there are just a couple of suspect cases to be confirmed.

Sorry to continue to be off-topic, but the Coronavirus tracker:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
shows 528 CONFIRMED cases in Italy, with 14 deaths and 40 recovered. This is far different than 'nobody.'


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Don't be a doofus, Ragtime. Yes, the worst is in China ... for now. But all diseases can spread.
The 1918 influenza killed tens of millions. This could too ... if not contained.

Re: Kawai - no more distributor in Italy [Re: Ragtime2k] #2952295 02/27/20 03:48 PM
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uhm...

maybe you guys watch the news on tv more often than I do... I was stuck on a few days ago news

anyway, it would seem they're all from one spot and that area has been contained.

I have to see what's happening in other European states.

anyway, The worse that can happen is to die, no big deal, after all...

So, how about buying a nice MP7SE?

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You might die...slowly! ๐Ÿ˜จ

Or you might end up quarantined for two weeks with people whom you really can't stand. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

And of course not (nearly) everybody actually dies from the Coronavirus. Yay... ๐Ÿ™„

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well that'd be the worst scenario...

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