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Piazzolla - Libertango #2951792 02/26/20 10:54 AM
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Heard this piece for the first time only last week. Is it for beginners? Absolutely not. Is it enjoyable? Absolutely.




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Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: kj85] #2951829 02/26/20 12:40 PM
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I love this piece, and other Piazzolla pieces also. Explore!


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Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: kj85] #2951832 02/26/20 12:44 PM
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Great version



Another favorite. I recorded this one but here’s a pro.




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Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: kj85] #2951835 02/26/20 12:55 PM
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The Buniatishvili recording Craig is a piece of beautiful magic. Thanks for making me aware of that.

The Invierno Porteno recording is something special as well.

Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: kj85] #2951845 02/26/20 01:55 PM
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The problem with Piazolla’s music is that was not composed for piano but has been transcribed by others. The only transcriptions I have seen need a lot of adaptation to make them work.

Here is one version of oblivion which is more accessible than Libertango, but still lovely
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6VsBx7baOo

Here is the original
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dF-IMQzd_Jo


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Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: KevinM] #2951847 02/26/20 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinM
The Buniatishvili recording Craig is a piece of beautiful magic. Thanks for making me aware of that.

Isn't it? I come back to it again and again.


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Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: kj85] #2951850 02/26/20 02:07 PM
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There are many different transcriptions of most of Piazzolla's most famous tangos. Many of them are excellent as piano pieces.

Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: pianoloverus] #2951852 02/26/20 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
There are many different transcriptions of most of Piazzolla's most famous tangos. Many of them are excellent as piano pieces.


Then why don’t you share the arrangers’ names who do not need their arrangements modified. That would be quite helpful as I’m on the lookout for well done arrangements of his work


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Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: dogperson] #2951874 02/26/20 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dogperson
The problem with Piazolla’s music is that was not composed for piano but has been transcribed by others. The only transcriptions I have seen need a lot of adaptation to make them work.

Isn't is quite common, though? Music being written for one solo instrument or an orchestra/band being arranged for and played on another solo instrument? I have listened to 10-20 different versions of this piece including a studio recording as well as a tv performance by Piazzolla himself, and I am quite satisfied with Kuznetsov's arrangement that both he and Kassia have played. There are "easier" arrangements for the piano available as well.



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Here is one version of oblivion which is more accessible than Libertango, but still lovely
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6VsBx7baOo

Here is the original
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dF-IMQzd_Jo

I like it. But for some reason, the original evokes a sense of sadness that the piano version doesn't. Probably the differences in the voices.

Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: kj85] #2951885 02/26/20 04:22 PM
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I recommend this version, performed by a British concert pianist (who is also Head of Piano at the Royal Academy of Music, and she has a great affinity for Latin rep) in the home of the Argentine tango:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_PI-zWxkT0

BTW, anyone who loves Piazzolla and/or Argentine tango and/or Nuevo tango should pay a visit to Buenos Aires and see the tango shows, then.........dance it on the streets where you'll see lots of these if you just stroll around thumb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcs4LY_ljQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCKzyUfvNiM


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Originally Posted by dogperson

Then why don’t you share the arrangers’ names who do not need their arrangements modified. That would be quite helpful as I’m on the lookout for well done arrangements of his work


There are some Tonos adaptations of Four Seasons and the Angel series. These are easiest but not 100% faithful.

John Mortensen has a fantastic arrangement of Milonga del Angel and he has also done Libertango. The Milonga is probably my favorite piece I ever got up to recording level. Even though it is slow, it was really tough because you are jumping around the entire keyboard and redistributing notes between the hands everywhere.

vkgoeswild has a great Oblivion arrangement.

But, yah, tough to find Piazzolla piano pieces.


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I really like this version of Milonga del Angel played by a talented amateur pianist who improvised on the theme. He has some intriguing harmonies.

https://soundcloud.com/bradhill/piazzolla-milonga-del-angel



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Originally Posted by PianogrlNW
I really like this version of Milonga del Angel played by a talented amateur pianist who improvised on the theme. He has some intriguing harmonies.https://soundcloud.com/bradhill/piazzolla-milonga-del-angel
That is not an improvisation. It is one of the most common and published versions of the piece.

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Originally Posted by PianogrlNW
I really like this version of Milonga del Angel played by a talented amateur pianist who improvised on the theme. He has some intriguing harmonies.https://soundcloud.com/bradhill/piazzolla-milonga-del-angel

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That is not an improvisation. It is one of the most common and published versions of the piece.

Well done, regardless. Thanks for posting it.


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I really like this version of Milonga del Angel played by a talented amateur pianist who improvised on the theme. He has some intriguing harmonies.https://soundcloud.com/bradhill/piazzolla-milonga-del-angel
That is not an improvisation. It is one of the most common and published versions of the piece.

Do you know who published it or wrote the transcription?



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Originally Posted by PianogrlNW
Do you know who published it or wrote the transcription?
It's the one here, I believe:
https://musescore.com/cmb13/piazzolla-milonga-del-angel

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Do you know who published it or wrote the transcription?
It's the one here, I believe:
https://musescore.com/cmb13/piazzolla-milonga-del-angel


That appears to be the standard version that both cmb13 and I played. I believe Brad had said he improvised part of it.



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It seems similar, although he takes some sections an octave higher (A2). I'd have to listen again to see if otherwise the same, but it doesn't really matter, he did a great job with it regardless.


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Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: dogperson] #2952263 02/27/20 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dogperson

Here is one version of oblivion which is more accessible than Libertango, but still lovely
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6VsBx7baOo
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That was fantastic.

Here another great one:

https://youtu.be/Ez62cQPYyI8


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Re: Piazzolla - Libertango [Re: kj85] #2952478 02/28/20 09:23 AM
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Well worth a few minutes...




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