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Hello guys,
I've just got my Grade 8 Trinity Piano Practical and Grade 5 ABRSM Music Theory certificate. I'd like to teach piano as a part-time job. How can I start?

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You can start by going to a university and obtaining a degree in Piano Pedagogy or Piano Performance (with classes in pedagogy).

If that's not an option, then you might want to consider getting an apprenticeship with an experienced piano teacher in your area.

Or if that's still not an option, then you might want to immerse yourself in all the available piano books and method book series. There is a ton of resources online as well, from folks like Piano Adventures and Alfred Premier.

You most likely will get a lot of beginners when you start teaching anywhere, but beginners are ironically very difficult to teach. It's even more difficult to teach beginners who were taught wrong the first time.


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Can you continue your studies and get a teaching diploma?

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Originally Posted by johnstaf
Can you continue your studies and get a teaching diploma?

I don't know about Trinity, but both ABRSM and RCM have piano pedagogy certificates.


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ABRSM has a teaching option even in their highest diploma. I wonder if the OP would be able to prepare for one of these.

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Originally Posted by Classical Lover
Hello guys,
I've just got my Grade 8 Trinity Piano Practical and Grade 5 ABRSM Music Theory certificate. I'd like to teach piano as a part-time job. How can I start?

I don't know whether parents will hire you where you live, in your country, based on your Grade 8 Practical and Grade 5 Theory.

When I was a kid, there were lots of qualified teachers around with teaching diplomas (ABRSM or Trinity), and no parent would hire a teacher with just Grade 8.

I recommend that you have a chat with established teachers - including your own, or your ex-teacher if you aren't having lessons anymore - to see what the expectation is among parents of prospective students.


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One skill you will need (among many others musical and administrative):

The confidence to stand up to parents.

You are bound to encounter at least some who are pushy, ignorant or inconsiderate.

Quite likely all of the above. They will also have more life experience than you so prepare your guidelines carefully.

Good luck!


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Or watch Parasite.

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Originally Posted by The Monkeys
Or watch Parasite.

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This advice might also depend on some factors. My elderly father watched all of it with Chinese subtitles and didn't understand it. I had to explain the entire movie to him again in Chinese and he had to watch it again a second time. This sort of spoils some of the dark comedy to have to explain the humor! eek Oh well!


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Originally Posted by The Monkeys
Or watch Parasite.

That would only work if the OP has extremely good con skills.

I work for several families that are extremely wealthy, and most of them aren't as idiotic as the family being portrayed in that film. But I guess if they were able to find me, they're not idiots to begin with. Ha!!


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Originally Posted by AZNpiano

I work for several families that are extremely wealthy, and most of them aren't as idiotic as the family being portrayed in that film.


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Thank you for your advices,
I'd like to immerse myself in all available piano books and method book series but how do I get piano students to teach?

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Thank you johnstaf for your comment,
Unfortunately ABRSM diploma has pre-requiste. Therefore, I'll have to take the Trinity diploma instead. If I'd like to take the performance diploma instead of the teaching one, will I still be able to teach?

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Thank you bennevis for your advices.
I'm thinking of taking a Trinity music performance diploma. With this diploma, do you think I'll be qualified enough to teach?

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Originally Posted by Classical Lover
Thank you bennevis for your advices.
I'm thinking of taking a Trinity music performance diploma. With this diploma, do you think I'll be qualified enough to teach?

I have a performance diploma (ABRSM) but I don't feel qualified to teach, because that diploma is all about presenting yourself as a performer, and showing your skills and knowledge of the kind of rep that performers would play. Nothing related to teaching at all, as far as I remember (it was a long time ago), but the technical requirements are very high and you have to play your pieces from memory (after all, you are going to be a performer, and audiences expect very high standards of performance).

Whereas the teaching diploma requires you to know the kind of repertoire that would be suitable for students of each grade, how you would teach specific stuff depending on how old the child is etc; but the technical requirements are much lower for the teaching diploma, and you don't need to play pieces from memory. (Check out the difference in the technical difficulty of the pieces you have to play for each diploma.)

I'm basing this on ABRSM - I have no knowledge of Trinity, so you'll need to check up on their website to see what their requirements are.

I think that if you are self-studying, you'll have a much better chance of getting the teacher's diploma than the performer's one. It took me two years of weekly lessons with a concert pianist (after getting my ABRSM Grade 8 Distinction) to further improve my technical and musical skills, practising in all my free time while at university (about four hours a day), before I was ready to do the performance diploma.

As to whether you're qualified to teach with a performance diploma, if parents will employ you, that's up to you if you have the knowledge and skills. (My last teacher had performance diplomas but no teaching ones, but then he only taught advanced students). After all, in the USA, you don't even need any qualifications to teach piano....... smirk


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Originally Posted by Classical Lover
Thank you for your advices,
I'd like to immerse myself in all available piano books and method book series but how do I get piano students to teach?

You can try advertising, but in my experience the students I get through advertisement are almost always terrible. The best advertisement is word-of-mouth referral.

I also started teaching piano as a side-job, but it evolved into a full-time position. It took many years, but I remember my very first group of students all came from the same "teacher" who "retired" (a.k.a. got married) and I got a bunch of Transfer Wrecks to deal with. They really tested my patience and thankfully they didn't stick around too long. I was very lucky to get one student's parent who referred me to 12+ students, and then the parents of those students got me more referrals. They were all members of a pretty close Asian community that went to the same Chinese School on weekends. They were not all good students, but I did have enough good ones to keep me going for a long time.


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Thank you for your wonderful experience. How do you organize a concert or a recital for your students?


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