2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Spring Into Sound Sale
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Pianoteq
Steinway Spiro Layering
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
Who's Online Now
28 members (JoanL, Greta99, CaseyVancouver, doctor S, Artdealer718, Gretel, jltuning, brendon, 6 invisible), 378 guests, and 464 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 16
M
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
M
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 16
Hey everyone. Master’s from Eastman in Piano Performance, ‘97.

Somehow I’ve made it to 47 without ever performing a Chopin Etude. I’m learning Revolutionary now. I’m looking for insight on tempos. Specifically with regard to the idea that Chopin’s metronome marking might’ve been intended to reflect only the left (or right) tick of the metronome. In other words, that they should be half as fast as how we would would otherwise interpret the number in the present day.

It’s odd to me because the metronome marking doesn’t seem to make sense with either interpretation. With the modern interpretation, it’s ridiculously fast; no one plays it that fast. With the other interpretation, it’s boringly slow. No one plays it that slow.

What’s y’all’s take on this? I’d especially love scholarly support.

Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,887
4000 Post Club Member
Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,887
There's no credible evidence that the metronome markings were meant to be interpreted differently from the way we do it now.

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,456
B
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 14,456
Play it in 2:40 (give or take 0:15) and you'll be OK thumb.

That will encompass about 100% (give or take 0.99%) of pianists who are able to play it properly.......


"I don't play accurately - anyone can play accurately - but I play with wonderful expression. As far as the piano is concerned, sentiment is my forte. I keep science for Life."
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 202
K
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
K
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 202

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 5,010
H
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
H
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 5,010
Originally Posted by bennevis
Play it in 2:40 (give or take 0:15) and you'll be OK thumb.

That will encompass about 100% (give or take 0.99%) of pianists who are able to play it properly.......


Then I was just 5 seconds faster.

https://youtu.be/LxpP8K9H6Jk

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,785
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,785
Originally Posted by bennevis
Play it in 2:40 (give or take 0:15) and you'll be OK thumb.

That will encompass about 100% (give or take 0.99%) of pianists who are able to play it properly.......


So it is about quarter note = 126. Most people who have decent technique will be able to play at this speed and sounds pretty good already (not too slow).
But it is the bottom speed, otherwise, it sounds too slow.

This guy thinks that it should be this tempo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpfdMSlu2oU

I think it is impossible. This tempo is way too slow, even people who just play three year can do this.

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,785
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,785
Originally Posted by kbrod1


Only concert pianists can play at this speed, real amateurs (not ex-prodigies or people with piano degrees) will have hard time to play at this speed.


Moderated by  Brendan, Kreisler 

Link Copied to Clipboard
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
(ad)
Couch to Concert Hall
Couch to Concert Hall
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Not sure which piano to buy need some help.
by Artdealer718 - 04/14/21 01:21 AM
Appraising a piano?
by jsilva - 04/13/21 09:18 PM
Bleeding edge synth tech c.1980 for Rush
by newer player - 04/13/21 08:36 PM
Yamaha U3 or Avant Grand N2
by Eggplanted - 04/13/21 05:46 PM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics206,270
Posts3,082,137
Members101,182
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers

Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


© copyright 1997 - 2021 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5