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Piano Premier-At First Light. New Steinway VI
#2937822 01/24/20 12:05 AM
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CGR at vi-control (who could that be?) discovered a Steinway VI from Japan.

I think this was released c. December 2019 and is called "Piano Premier -At First Light". $129. Requires Kontakt Full (not Free).

https://premiersoundfactory.com/piano-premier-atfirstlight/

Sampling rate: 96kHz / 24bit
Num of Samples: 2952 Samples with no loop
Instrument Recorded: Steinway O-180(88key)
Layer: Max 12 pedal off velocity layers + 12 pedal on velocity layers
Channel: Stereo 2ch
Download size: 10GB

Demo videos below for Jazz and Classical. Audio files are available at the website.

CGR's comments are here
vi-control.net/community/threads/what’s-the-latest-piano-library-worth-getting.89414/page-3




* Choose your story from three distinct styles
These were recorded with: Neumann U49, Sony C37, SCHOEPS M221.

* We only used recorded samples for our piano sounds, even for its harmonic resonances
The mainstream piano libraries typically use synthetic modeling systems for harmonic resonance. However, the beauty in the complicated resonances of an authentic piano is like “cosmic space”.
When the pedal is engaged between key presses, the harmonic resonances of the piano will be audible. When a note is pressed after the pedal is engaged, the “pedal-on” samples will be activated instead of “pedal-off” samples.

* Half-pedal system
You can control the length of the decay if you use a damper pedal capable of 0-127 step resolution. If you release the pedal slowly, you can end the note quietly without the damper sound.
The half damper system is also controllable with modulation wheel if you have only have an on/off midi pedal.

* Variable Dynamic Range
The default “zero” value is the sound of the true studio recording. A higher value helps the piano sit better within an ensemble. Some pianist feel better with bigger dynamic range at their fingers.

* Pedal trigger pedal action sound
3 sampled pedal sounds, available for round-robin use with individual controllable levels.

* Adjustable Main and High Key Release Noises Independently
The piano’s action at the higher keys is different from lower ones. The default settings on both attenuators are the real sounds of studio recording, but can be adjusted to fit your project.

* Master Keyboard Velocity Map
You can adjust and optimize the sensitivity of PIANO Premier for your master keyboard.

* Max Voice Optimize System
Usually, a maximum of 1 voice per key is used with damper pedal engaged in order to reduce the strain on your CPU. However, this can sometimes cause an unnatural sounds during a performance.
For example: if you play a note with a velocity of 30 right after a note with a velocity of 110, the piano sound will suddenly change to sound much smaller. This system recognizes each situation and automatically changes the maximum number of voices in order to create the most natural and organic sound.

* Status Bar Information:
This shows the damper pedal value and also the “note on” velocity value (in Stand alone). 3 sampled pedal sounds, available for round-robin use with individual controllable levels.

* Adjustable Main and High Key Release Noises Independently
The piano’s action at the higher keys is different from lower ones. The default settings on both attenuators are the real sounds of studio recording, but can be adjusted to fit your project.

* Master Keyboard Velocity Map
You can adjust and optimize the sensitivity of PIANO Premier for your master keyboard.

* Max Voice Optimize System
Usually, a maximum of 1 voice per key is used with damper pedal engaged in order to reduce the strain on your CPU. However, this can sometimes cause an unnatural sounds during a performance.
For example: if you play a note with a velocity of 30 right after a note with a velocity of 110, the piano sound will suddenly change to sound much smaller. This system recognizes each situation and automatically changes the maximum number of voices in order to create the most natural and organic sound.

* Status Bar Information:
This shows the damper pedal value and also the “note on” velocity value (in Stand alone).

* Elegant Convolution Reverb
We use the same 12 Impulse responses that can be accessed in DrumTree, Bass Premier, and Princess Koto KAGUYA and Shakuhachi in order to achieve various landscapes of sounds. It is the perfect combination for the Premier family!

* System Details
* 96kHz/24bit Super Hi-Res raw samples
You can use PIANO Premier at any sample rate, but you will achieve the purest sound and best performance at 96-192kHz session.

* 12 pedal on layers and 12 pedal off layers (7 Samples each)
We recorded every key with its original mechanical key stroke system. This offers us accurate uniformity of velocity.

* 6 velocity release noise (4 Samples)
The “Note off” noise is crucial for capturing and recreating the harmonious sound of a real piano. The On/Off status of the followed pedal press automatically provides natural noise play, and the release noise samples will automatically be changed to fit “note on” decay properly with the passage of time.

Re: Piano Premier-At First Light. New Steinway VI
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An older version was released over ten years ago called "Piano Premier G". $52 in shopping cart but not sure this is still available.

https://premiersoundfactory.com/piano-premier-g/

Sampling rate: 96kHz / 24bit
Num of Samples: 788 Samples with no loop
Instrument Recorded: Steinway O-180(88key)
Layer: Max 10 pedal off velocity layers + 10 pedal on velocity layers + soft touch simulation
Channel: Stereo 2ch
Download size: 4.8GB

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Drum Tree and Acoustic Bass Premier also sound unbelievably good.

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newer player #2938058 01/24/20 02:59 PM
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Developer So Ichiro noted the piano VI was recorded in 2019. The samples from the older piano VI were not reused.

"PIANO Premier "At first light" has totally new samples and many new systems. "

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7608284#p7608284

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Does anyone have this? I'm a bit sceptical. The demo piece is a jazz piece with other instruments, and the size of the library seems too small considering it's hi res samples. The amount of samples per note is also pretty low compared to other offerings. If anyone decided to buy this, I'd appreciate some feedback.

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newer player #2947578 02/16/20 11:48 AM
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That jazz sample was so well produced.

There are basic audio files of the piano alone you can download, unzip, and listen to. They are the two blue buttons under "Demo for Professional Check."

https://premiersoundfactory.com/piano-premier-atfirstlight/

Another short audio sample


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Thank you. That gives a much better picture. I'm still not convinced. Do you own this and can say something about playability and pedaling behavior?
At least it seems the dev is fixing bugs quickly, if the KVR thread is any indication.

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newer player #2947589 02/16/20 12:11 PM
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I don't own the piano but that fantastic Jazz sample is tugging at my wallet.

I think Craig Richards here owns this piano (and the predecessor) so you might ping him. Some comments in the vi-control forum linked in the first post above, include:
Originally Posted by "CGR, post: 4501727, member: 12297"
Yeah, there's not much info about it online. Pretty basic GUI - has the ability to load 3 different mic sets (one being a mono mic) but you can't mix the sets in the interface - you'd simply need to create a Kontakt multi for that.

Really good piano - it's a smaller Hamburg Steinway O Grand (180cm) captured with a pristine quality studio setup.

Plays really well and not too heavy on computer resources. The built in reverb impulse responses are very good too, and well matched to the piano. Their demo video is very much what you get in terms of sound - very realistic.

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Ah thank you for posting that. Hm, I tend towards passing on this. The thing with the Kontakt multis is something I can't stand in pianos. How hard is it to make a mixer for the different mics and put them into an interface? It's always such a hassle to juggle multiple instruments in Kontakt if you're trying to combine mic positions.
Also looks like an introductory sale price was there but is now over. They seem to have sales on some of their instruments but since this one is new I figure it might take a while.
And a smaller grand. Meh.

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Originally Posted by Grazilerimba

And a smaller grand. Meh.


Hey! What's with the dissing of a smaller grand wink

I bought the original Piano Premier sampled Steinway a few years ago, but always felt it was a sampled piano with great potential which fell short. Cut to the new "At First Light" version of the same piano and it's now a mature instrument with great expressivity and tone, and the flexibility of 3 mic sets (one being a high end mono mic).

Don't underestimate the potential and suitability of a smaller grand piano (or upright piano for that matter). I've read that Henry Mancini & George Gershwin were both fond of an upright piano when composing & performing. Not all of us are belting out Rachmaninoff Concertos (as wonderful as they are) and often I find the smaller grands & uprights (both real & virtual) sit far better with certain styles and mixes than the full 9 foot concert grands.

This Piano Premier At First Light is a beauty, and I'm pleased to have it as part of my virtual piano arsenal. BTW, I used it in a solo piano track on an album I'm about to release!

Last edited by Craig Richards; 02/17/20 04:43 AM.

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Hey Craig, thank you for writing all this. Yeah I think smaller grands can be very good in certain situations, it's just that, not knowing much about this, the small size discouraged me from considering to buy this. I'm looking forward to listening to your solo track once your album gets released smile Thank you.

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I think the price rose to $159; it is currently $129.


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