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Recording MIDI on CA98 #2947827 02/16/20 11:33 PM
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The CA98 can record MIDI in the Sound Mode:
Insert USB stick > Music Tab > Record Playback > select SONGn > Menu > Save to USB (SMF)

The Pianist Mode has other sound options (Classic, Romantic, Full, Brilliant, Rich, Ballad, Vintage) that do not seem to be available in the Sound Mode. Is there any way to record MIDI using these options?

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Re: Recording MIDI on CA98 [Re: ee375] #2947830 02/16/20 11:51 PM
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Hello ee375,

Originally Posted by ee375
The Pianist Mode has other sound options (Classic, Romantic, Full, Brilliant, Rich, Ballad, Vintage) that do not seem to be available in the Sound Mode. Is there any way to record MIDI using these options?


No, I'm afraid not, at least not using the instrument's internal song recorder.
The only way to capture MIDI from the CA98 when Pianist mode is selected, would be to use an external recorder, such as a DAW running on a computer.

One reason for this limitation is because the CA98's "SK-EX Rendering" sound engine (which is used by Pianist mode) does not generate resonances for externally received MIDI events. Therefore, even after capturing the MIDI file externally into a DAW, replaying this song data into the CA98 will result in a resonance-less sound.

I hope this explanation is clear.

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Re: Recording MIDI on CA98 [Re: ee375] #2947842 02/17/20 01:22 AM
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MIDI isn't audio so it really does not matter which preset or mode you use when recording.

What the tune then sounds like when played back depends on what it is played back with. On a Roland digital piano it will sound like a Roland etc.

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Therefore, even after capturing the MIDI file externally into a DAW, replaying this song data into the CA98 will result in a resonance-less sound.

So to record in the Pianist Mode the most accurate reproduction would be MP3?

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Therefore, even after capturing the MIDI file externally into a DAW, replaying this song data into the CA98 will result in a resonance-less sound.

So to record in the Pianist Mode the most accurate reproduction would be MP3?

No, if you record to a USB stick, you can also switch to WAV format.

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So to record in the Pianist Mode the most accurate reproduction would be MP3?

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No, if you record to a USB stick, you can also switch to WAV format.

My understanding is the MP3 sampled at 192-256 is about as good as WAV and beyond notice in almost all situations. Correct me if I am wrong.

I should clarify my original question: What will make the most accurate playback on the CA98?

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Originally Posted by ee375
My understanding is the MP3 sampled at 192-256 is about as good as WAV and beyond notice in almost all situations. Correct me if I am wrong.

That's about right.

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Originally Posted by ee375
My understanding is the MP3 sampled at 192-256 is about as good as WAV and beyond notice in almost all situations. Correct me if I am wrong.


For most uses 256 kbps MP3 should be fine. However, "about as good" is still inferior to WAV. So, if your goal is to capture the sound at the very highest quality possible, WAV is the best option.

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What will make the most accurate playback on the CA98?


Probably WAV, however I'm still not 100% clear what you're trying to achieve. What is ultimate objective?

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I'm still not 100% clear what you're trying to achieve. What is ultimate objective?

I want to make a recording that will play back on the CA98 as close as possible to the original playing. It sounds like recording and playing back from WAV is the best option, correct?

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I'm still not 100% clear what you're trying to achieve. What is ultimate objective?

I want to make a recording that will play back on the CA98 as close as possible to the original playing. It sounds like recording and playing back from WAV is the best option, correct?


Ah, I see.
In which case, Yes, WAV is the best option.

The internal song recorder (which is used automatically if a USB memory device is not attached) should also produce good quality, but due to the recording format used when Pianist mode is selected, it is not possible to copy/save the recording from the instrument's memory to a USB memory device.

For this reason, if you wish to keep a copy of the recorded song, recording directly to USB memory (in WAV format) may be preferable.

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