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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
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Does Techno ever go quiet?

I sometimes think subwoofers were first invented for Techno. In fact, can it be called "Techno" if you can't feel it in your gut? Sorry, my ears are not in my abdomen...

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So if i understand this correctly.. your wife dragged you to techno nightclubs, and after that, she gave up and started listening different music.

Since i like to always be positive whenever possible, i will just say, well done! grin

Yes! She says she "outgrew it" but I'd like to attribute it to my "moderating" influence thumb grin I'm just glad I don't have to listen to music with my abdomen any more! laugh


I don’t mind bass, but unrelenting bass at high volumes, without crisp articulation, is not for me, unless I just block my ears with big foam earplugs. It’s worth plugging my ears to not go deaf. I have Etymotic 15dB cut plugs that I use for all amplified concerts. Well worth $25.

It is the largest organs in your body that absorb the bass energy. The military has figured out how to pulverize those organs with low frequency sound. Isn’t that nice?

Have you ever been in a dormitory at a school for the deaf? I knew someone who lived in one, and she was a hearing person. She said that it’s about the loudest place you can imagine, with everybody trying to listen with their largest organs.

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To stop wasting money and time on useless group music classes at a music school and instead seek a quality piano teacher. I couldn’t believe how much had been wasted.

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The best thing I´ve learnt in music was to play by ear, to understand how music is made, chord progressions, to improvise, to make arrangements, to modify, to create real music whenever I wish, not only to repeat the frozen music from a paper.


I don´t want to learn how to play a music. I´m developing a way to play them all.
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Originally Posted by dihelson

The best thing I´ve learnt in music was to play by ear, to understand how music is made, chord progressions, to improvise, to make arrangements, to modify, to create real music whenever I wish, not only to repeat the frozen music from a paper.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by dihelson

The best thing I´ve learnt in music was to play by ear, to understand how music is made, chord progressions, to improvise, to make arrangements, to modify, to create real music whenever I wish, not only to repeat the frozen music from a paper.

Welcome to PW, dihelson!


Thank you very much, Tyrone Slothrop. It´s a real great pleasure to be here among all these fellow musicians and people who loves music and piano. It´s incredible that I discovered it 6 years ago, but only now I had the opportunity to engage. So many good articles, so many ideas here. It´s all about what we love ! Thanks !


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The #1 thing... well it's probably a culmination of things. Get a teacher (and the RIGHT teacher, one you actually not just like, but jive with) who will hit you with some reality. I've gotten several nuggets from mine, from "that's the wrong fingering for that" to "here's my log, you aren't necessarily progressing slowly, here is a piece that took me five years to learn."

But again, a teacher you actually click with is beneficial. He's a former marine, I'm a former sailor, so we can compare things to military life. When I saw him last week, I asked why I'm stuck on this and that and he said "when all you shoot at are paper targets, you get really good at shooting paper targets," basically saying "to get un-stuck, you have to practice in a different way." I understood what he meant and he gave me different hings to try. He could've given me different things to try anyway, but without that example, something I've actually experienced in real life, I'm not sure it would have stuck as well.

I suppose that's it.

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Get a teacher you click with who will keep your feet on the ground and tell you what you need to hear to keep you moving forward. I do use Piano Marvel and love it (especially its random sight reading feature) and the combination of that plus him has kept excited and interested.


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Adding the minor scales to my warmup exercises.

I got an epiphany today when practicing the Natural Minor Scale. I had been struggling with the fingering and playing at a consistent tempo. Today everything came together once I could easily identify its relative key.

Looking forward to completing the remainder of the Circle of 5ths with their natural minor scale!


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Be musical.


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I have been a member of this board on and off for years. I am still a beginner(working on rcm two which is brutal) and I’m usually on when I take lessons. I used to take lessons and then stopped because I work full time and come home exhausted and can’t get to the bench. I have learned over the years that once I sit down I want to practice for an hour. The problem is dragging myself to sitting down in the first place.
I play a number of other instruments,all wind and the reading of music is a walk in the park compared to the piano. Every instrument has its own forum like this one-people getting together and sharing the love,support and advice. But this is the only board I am on that consistently makes me feel,yes,I don’t need to quit. On this board you hear over and over again-take lessons,find a good teacher. Every other board is full of players who only want to talk about their equipment or the fancy things they can do. I don’t think most of them would consider taking lessons.
So I am a very thank-ful that this board exists,the support and wisdom is phenomenal. I come here and I think yes..I can still try. Piano is tough,I’m 61 and I don’t have a lot of energy,but you folk always encourage me and I feel there is never boasting or competition here.
Thank-you,all,of you. I would have quit years ago if not for this forum.

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Hello @alans. Keep it up man. It is very uplifting to read you as I am in a situation similar to yours. I think I have come to the good place, the right place.

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I have been a member of this board on and off for years. I am still a beginner(working on rcm two which is brutal) and I’m usually on when I take lessons. I used to take lessons and then stopped because I work full time and come home exhausted and can’t get to the bench. I have learned over the years that once I sit down I want to practice for an hour. The problem is dragging myself to sitting down in the first place.
I play a number of other instruments,all wind and the reading of music is a walk in the park compared to the piano. Every instrument has its own forum like this one-people getting together and sharing the love,support and advice. But this is the only board I am on that consistently makes me feel,yes,I don’t need to quit. On this board you hear over and over again-take lessons,find a good teacher. Every other board is full of players who only want to talk about their equipment or the fancy things they can do. I don’t think most of them would consider taking lessons.
So I am a very thank-ful that this board exists,the support and wisdom is phenomenal. I come here and I think yes..I can still try. Piano is tough,I’m 61 and I don’t have a lot of energy,but you folk always encourage me and I feel there is never boasting or competition here.
Thank-you,all,of you. I would have quit years ago if not for this forum.

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Originally Posted by alans
I have been a member of this board on and off for years. I am still a beginner ...I work full time and come home exhausted and can’t get to the bench. I have learned over the years that once I sit down I want to practice for an hour. The problem is dragging myself to sitting down in the first place.

...Every other board is full of players who only want to talk about their equipment or the fancy things they can do. ....

Thank-you,all,of you. I would have quit years ago if not for this forum.

I completely agree with everything you wrote. I even typed a thank you in another thread saying very similar things. I used to play guitar, but like you said the boards for that seem to be more about gear, and pedals and instead of learning.

I always come back to PW forums, because they motivate me to drag my butt to the bench. I’m still a beginner, but still working at it. Finally got a teacher again just this year.

Thanks for sharing!

Oh best thing I learned? Don’t give up! Keep practicing, even if its only 10minutes one day, just try again tmr. Try to practice everyday. Just keep at it and the surprises, and Ah ha moments will come.

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That I'm not the only senior learning piano. There's still a few good tunes left in this old Stradivarius.


"An amateur practices until they get it right. A professional practices until they can't get it wrong." Julie Andrews

"Music is not a add hot water and stir kind of thing. You have to practice." Mr. Katz my junior HS music director (He was a cool guy)
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Reading the very first post on this forum back in 2015 (to turn the volume all the way up on a digital piano in order to learn dynamic playing better) I actually found the opposite advice has worked for me.

Keeping the volume around the middle, or slightly below middle, has encouraged me to play with arm weight and into the key beds properly… rather than light and fingertippy.

However, I understand that what’s helped me is useful for now as a beginner, but an intermediate player and beyond will want to be much more aware of dynamics so the OP’s advice still stands!

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