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Re: What kind of musician are you?
Ganddalf #2943566 02/06/20 02:06 PM
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Generalist.

I used to sing regularly with a church choir. Those years of experience offered me the opportunity to receive free piano instruction encompassing music theory, fingering technique, and a variety of piano music no matter what key they may be written. I continue to practice piano on my own and enjoy using that knowledge to play other genre of music that I inspire me, i.e. main theme from a movie soundtrack.

So far I've learned that piano music from our favorite Japanese anime shows are currently out of my reach!


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Re: What kind of musician are you?
Ganddalf #2943577 02/06/20 02:25 PM
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Specialist: You focus on playing the piano and specialise on one genre. You either play only by ear or exclusively use sheet music. If you use sheet music you have a small growing number of favourite composers. If you play by ear, you are possibly also able to improvise of compose music. You are probably very good at doing what you do, but are reluctant to trying something different.


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Re: What kind of musician are you?
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Originally Posted by Animisha
Specialist: You focus on playing the piano and specialise on one genre. You either play only by ear or exclusively use sheet music. If you use sheet music you have a small growing number of favourite composers. If you play by ear, you are possibly also able to improvise of compose music. You are probably very good at doing what you do, but are reluctant to trying something different.


Nice editing job Animisha. 😁

I think I would like to play some blues and popular music, but I really struggle to get past classical. I also can’t play by ear. So I am team very amateur specialist.

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Hmm.. let's see. I started tinkering around on a keyboard about 7 years ago, never had a lesson, still haven't learned to read sheet music, and now I can play just 8 pieces from 2 composers with a very specific style/genre pretty well if I say so myself, and still refuse to play anything that doesn't truely touch my soul.

I'm obviously a generalist. smirk

Re: What kind of musician are you?
Ganddalf #2943634 02/06/20 05:34 PM
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Used to be more of a generalist . Realized you can only do so much, at least unless you are blessed with considerably more talent than I, so moved to being more of a specialist (classical, reading). But I agree with pianoloverus, the two categories are too specific.

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Originally Posted by EP
Used to be more of a generalist . Realized you can only do so much, at least unless you are blessed with considerably more talent than I, so moved to being more of a specialist (classical, reading). But I agree with pianoloverus, the two categories are too specific.

EP, you took all those Duane Shinn courses, probably completing more of them than anyone ever on PW. How have you found those courses to support you in your current classical piano interest? Did you find yourself having to start over, or do you feel your Duane Shinn training was able to extend to classical piano also?


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It's all good - Duane is a great teacher and I got a lot out of it, but really, it's only a start. My personal feeling is that ultimately the only way to learn to play the masters is to study the masters. It all depends on one's goals and what one wants to play. The piano can do anything - blues, jazz, cocktail, pop, Chopin, Beethoven, etc. I can't, so I needed to narrow my focus.
The Shinn courses were time well spent - by coming at my current studies from a broader perspective I think it helps me in whatever direction I choose to go.

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Originally Posted by EP
It's all good - Duane is a great teacher and I got a lot out of it, but really, it's only a start. My personal feeling is that ultimately the only way to learn to play the masters is to study the masters. It all depends on one's goals and what one wants to play. The piano can do anything - blues, jazz, cocktail, pop, Chopin, Beethoven, etc. I can't, so I needed to narrow my focus.
The Shinn courses were time well spent - by coming at my current studies from a broader perspective I think it helps me in whatever direction I choose to go.

So you felt that D.S. gave e good foundation from a broader perspective, which you subsequently built on in studying the masters? That actually is probably about as good a recommendation as one can give. I'm not looking to start with D.S., I am just curious if the D.S. training 'pigeon-holed' one, and clearly from what you are saying it didn't in your case.


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Re: What kind of musician are you?
Ganddalf #2943711 02/06/20 09:40 PM
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I guess I'd have to say that he teaches things that probably a lot of classical teachers wouldn't have time or, perhaps, the training to teach - how to play from a lead sheet, embellish chords, accompany hymns (w/o written music), etc. Bottom line is, each of us has only so much time to commit to this, and we have to decide what our priorities are. We can't learn it all, even if we're Keith Jarrett or Chick Corea or Murray Perahia or Yuja Wang. (Well, maybe they can).
If it puts you ahead of the game to study Duane Shinn for a year or so rather than spending that time with a classical teacher ... I guess everyone has to make that decision. I'm always trying to figure out exactly what it is that I want to do, and how best to learn to do it.
I only gradually got focused on playing classical music, so I've gone a lot of different directions (starting with 30 years playing bluegrass banjo). In the end it all contributes to musical understanding and enjoyment, even if it's not the straightest path.

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Put me in the generalist group. Piano is now my major instrument but I used to sing in choir and played guitar for church sing alongs. I focus most on classical but don't have a particular composer. Using the RCM repertoire has introduced me to new composers that my teacher (classical snob) may not have suggested. Wish I could improvise and play by ear (my dad did) but years of sight reading make me trust it more than my own inner sense of music. Not particularly gifted but I'm serious about my music and dedicate daily time to my piano. My morning needs coffee and the sound of piano.


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Re: What kind of musician are you?
Ganddalf #2946230 02/13/20 04:25 AM
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Hey WiseBuff.


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Hey hawgdriver! Will we see you this month at the Meetup??


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Ganddalf #2946265 02/13/20 07:14 AM
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I'd say I'm a generalist, in the sense that I have studied and been taught both classical and Jazz Piano, as well as playing in Blues/Rock bands. I can play from sheet music reasonably well, or lead sheets or just the chords to a pop song only. But sit me down at the Piano with nothing and I'm happiest playing a 12 bar blues/boogie. I dabble with a guitar (quite badly) and have just bought a saxophone to celebrate my retirement in 8 days time.

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Ganddalf #2946598 02/13/20 10:58 PM
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a generalist.

Piano is usually hovering these days in about third position behind Classical guitar and now violin quite a bit- where I'm still quite a neo-phyte after starting that a half dozen years ago.. My old age making me focus and devote more time to my instruments. I could go on about my history but suffice it to say I started o a 49 key Casio mini key board back in '87- and some piano lessons after that, and plugged along at some level on piano keyboards since- rebuilding an old piano in LA years ago- cursed by ancient bicycle mechanic indoctrinations and a heavy bent toward recording film and video. I really broke through on guitar at community college lessons- LACC- and have been steady on that for almost 25 years now- as I could be- NOT progressing like a young person, but like an older beginner always running from homelessness.

I'm also playing more steel string guitar- my first real listening interest- and even some slide guitar in chordal tunings-

then there's ukes-
also harps has been given some time for the past 10 years especially.
I'm going through the Suzuki books on violin, even though I learned mostly to play from ear- though not that skillfully yet- my vibratos good for my experience level.

LOVE many forms of music - usually interested in at any time in what I can do- celtic has been an influence, folk, rock, pop, classical waltzes, show tunes.

Hey I think I'm a generalist simply for liking so many kinds of music

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Cross-curricular so I might be a generalist. Although I studied painting, I love my piano and a good day sees me occupied with both activities. A bad day? Well…

I briefly had lessons as a child, so when I retired, I thought it was enough to buy some sheet music and start plunking away. I do not play by ear or even when anyone is within earshot, still practicing the notes until they turn into something I can enjoy and even recognize as music feels very creative and exciting.

Discovering Piano World recently has been especially beneficial. The “Debussy’s Reverie” thread and the “What Technical Exercises Do You Do?” thread convinced me to get a music theory book and start looking for a teacher.

I’m wary of becoming obsessed with correctness, but I’m thinking that getting more of the fundamentals into my brain will help me progress to more surprising colours and sounds.

Is “would love to be a musician someday”, a category?


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Ganddalf #2946962 02/14/20 08:58 PM
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I am definitely a generalist, and proud of it. You might call it a short attention span. However, I love making connections between different kinds of music. At this point, it's all the same to me. All genres, all composers. Whatever. And that's quite nice.

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