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Re: Debussy Arabesque I E maj [Re: cmb13] #2937024 01/22/20 10:25 AM
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Btw I jumped ahead and read through A' is largely a repeat of A, and the triplet section is an octave higher but otherwise identical at one point. I think once the A section is completed, the A' will come together more quickly.

That said, as I promised myself, I'm not touching B or A' again until the end of January; I'll spend the next 9 days repeating A until it's a little cleaner.


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Re: Debussy Arabesque I E maj [Re: dogperson] #2937077 01/22/20 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dogperson
You might find this link interesting— it is Debussy's Thoughts on a wide variety of musical topics
Index on right side

http://djupdal.org/karstein/debussy/method/m10.shtml

Thanks, very interesting indeed!

Re: Debussy Arabesque I E maj [Re: cmb13] #2939921 01/28/20 07:13 PM
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How's everyone doing on this?

I've basically learned the A section, but it falls apart when I tried to play it with a metronome. The tempo is marked at 88 bpm. When I first turned on the metronome, I found I could not play it even at 52 bpm and keep up. There are several insecure spots, where I know where to go, yet it takes a few moments to get there. I have to think about the next chord at times. These spots are all over the place.

My plan is to spend the next week or two working with the metronome. I may never get it to the stated 88 bpm, but if I can hit the 70's, I think I'll be okay with that. It's amazing how far the distance is between "(kinda) knowing it" and being able to play it through, in time, without slips, skips, or even barely perceptible pauses. I think it'll take a half hour to hour of work, daily, for a few weeks to make that jump, and that's on the A section alone!

I hope I have it mostly down by next Tuesday, as that's the date of my next lesson.

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Re: Debussy Arabesque I E maj [Re: cmb13] #2939934 01/28/20 07:44 PM
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Craig, it sounds as though you're making good progress!

Progress is slow on my part, for two reasons: (1) I'm slow, and (2) Arabesque is at the end of the queue, and doesn't get practiced anywhere near enough for me to make much progress. I haven't played any of it yet for my teacher, and won't until I finish up with the Chopin nocturne (Cminor, posthumous) I'm currently learning.

The first half of the Arabesque A section is starting to fall under my fingers, but the second half is very halting and slow. I'm a long way from bringing in the metronome. I haven't even tried to play through the B section yet.


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The second half may be easier than the first half, imo, Stubbie. Btw, the Reverie is rated (by Piano Syllabus) as more difficult, fwiw. And, finally, you're slow? I'm really slow!! But put in a lot of work.


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I started to work on it last week.

Turns out 2:3 is not so hard smile

But I am still very slow. I've gone thorough it small section by small section. Currently up to measure 28.

I played for my teacher this monday up to measure 19 and it was ok.


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I'm picking this back up too, having worked on it a lot a couple of years ago but never fully getting it there.
I'm just taking it easy and getting small sections back into my fingers. I haven't looked past the A section yet, and mainly the first half of that with some time looking at the hardest part towards the end of the A section (sorry, no measure numbers to hand!).
I have a number of other things on the go with my teacher, so I'm not allocating much time to this, but it's such a treat to work on it again


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I took a break for a week but will resume it soon. Unfortunately, a trip this weekend will turn my break into two weeks.


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It's been going pretty well for me--it falls nicely under the fingers indeed, even the middle part I'd say. Committing to fingering took a little while. Still lots of work left, I started pretty recently. I never use the metronome, so I'll just keep working on it and will be increasing the tempo gradually as I feel more comfortable playing it.

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Has anyone been continuing with this? I have completed my preliminary work, and am now memorizing, smoothing the transitions, and getting it more comfortable. It'll be another month, for sure, before it's fluent, if not two months.

Measures 95-107, the ending, are so much fun btw. As are the measures 87-94, the penultimate section. The piece in general is a lot of fun, with arpeggios throughout. The harmonies are just spectacular!


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I haven't done anything at all with it in the last three weeks and probably won't until May, when my piano semester ends. I just couldn't keep up with the Arabesque and all the pieces my teacher assigns, not to mention other 'life' duties and interests that get in the way. I am working on the Chopin C# Minor Nocturne (Posth.), though, after getting a pass on the C Minor. I'm very much enjoying the nocturnes.


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Yes they are so beautiful. (The Nocturnes)


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Those arpeggios near the end are so much fun! I have practiced them in several ways, including playing them straight and blocking them to make them more secure in my brain. I also worked out what each chord is.

There is so much to learn here.


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Yes, I've been working on it and enjoying it so much! The idea was to get it ready for my teacher's recital in early April but, given the situation, the recital will be postponed until some time in May (if it happens at all in live format). Which is good, because I need more time, since I've been working on other pieces, too, and have had too much stuff going on at work. I still need to make it smoother and work more on pedaling and I need to work more on 2 against 3 in measures 89-94 (I mostly got it but need to practice some spots and get more consistent). It's my first Debussy piece, and it's a whole different world (not super hard but tons of nuances and a unique mood)

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M89-M94

Those arpeggios near the end are so much fun! I have practiced them in several ways, including playing them straight and blocking them to make them more secure in my brain. I also worked out what each chord is.

There is so much to learn here.

Yep, I spent some time on these arpeggios today in my lesson. I tended to play them crescendo, because they go up, but my teacher reminded me that they need to be slowly dying down. Also I needed to remember not to switch the pedal in the middle of the measures... And to gradually slow down the last of the arpeggios (I hope we're talking about the same spot, measures 95-98--if I counted correctly, my edition doesn't show the numbers).

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