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Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie #2938646 01/25/20 11:47 PM
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Hi all, thanks for having this forum for questions. I've looked around and seen a few negative comments about Soviet made Petrofs. I have the opportunity to buy a Petrof P100 Harmonie Year of production: 1969 - 1970 Production site: Hradec Králové. It was bought new by the present owner's father and regularly tuned. A pianist friend loves Petrofs but they aren't in the same location as the piano to test it...
I'm just a beginner adult needing a piano to start again (last played as a child!) and I don't have several thousand dollars for a newer, better piano. I don't have the room for a big piano but also don't want a mini piano if that makes sense, so the smaller Petrof may suit.
I just wanted to find out what the issues are about the quality of these pianos? I'm in Australia so Petrofs aren't that easy to find.

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Re: Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie [Re: elinorAU] #2938751 01/26/20 10:39 AM
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They were best communist block pianos, besides German ones. Grand had very heavy actions and powerful, full bodied sound with lots of overtones.

Dunno about uprights though.

Your Petrof is very small piano in fact.

Re: Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie [Re: elinorAU] #2938787 01/26/20 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by elinorAU
Hi all, thanks for having this forum for questions. I've looked around and seen a few negative comments about Soviet made Petrofs.


The piano was made in the former Czechoslovakia, not the Soviet Union.

Re: Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie [Re: elinorAU] #2938794 01/26/20 12:09 PM
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Just stay away from that piano.

Re: Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie [Re: elinorAU] #2938795 01/26/20 12:09 PM
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When the piano was made, Czechoslovaki was under the control of the Soviets, as was East Germany. I have heard it said, although I have no evidence of my own, that pianos made in Soviet controlled countries were made with poor quality materials. Quality improved only after independence.

The OP is advised to get the piano checked by a technician.

Re: Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie [Re: elinorAU] #2938810 01/26/20 12:35 PM
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The Petrof made at that time and place does not compare at all to what they build today. I have never seen a 1970 Petrof, but by reputation they were not using great designs or materials, and the execution of those designs and materials lacked uniformity.

I hope that helps,


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Re: Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie [Re: elinorAU] #2938838 01/26/20 02:03 PM
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I owned a Petrof upright, it was built around 1990 though so I don't think my experience is relevant to the piano you're looking at.

Beyond the details of this particular piano, why not try for a newer instrument in general? Where are you located/shopping? Do you have other options?


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Re: Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie [Re: Rich Galassini] #2938854 01/26/20 02:42 PM
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I own a Petrof 115 from 1988. It has a typical Petrof romantic sound with a heavy action. When disassembled, the lack of quality control is visible. The hidden part of piano keys are far from smooth; you can even see splinters. On the other hand, it is a sturdy piano which hold a tune extremely well and for more than 30 years plays without any repair.

These pianos were designed to survive children bashing in public music schools. They were mass produced, and as Mr. Gallasini said, they had lacked uniformity.

I have been very critical to Petrofs at first. As a child I disliked its heavy action. I rather played our old baby grand with a viennese action that the Petrof. As and adult I saw the guts... But when searching for my grand, I came across some uprights. I must confess, even if I am not very fond of Petrof romantic sound, my Petrof was superior to other old uprights. So I have slightly changed my opinion.

If you really like Petrof sound and the piano is well preserved, I would consider to try it. My only concern is the hight (100 cm). If it would be 125+ cm, I would probably not hesitate. They should be of better quality.

I fairly hope, that helps at least a little bit,

Scholze

Some additional information about Petrof history can be found on official webpages and little tidbits in my comment here.

Re: Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie [Re: elinorAU] #2938880 01/26/20 03:20 PM
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Hi - woke up rhis morning and so many replies! (I'm in Australia). I very much appreciate your thoughttful comments MrKaramba, johnstaf, Hakki, keff, Rich, Shirokuro and Scholze.. I didn't realise that P100 was referring to the height rather than a simple model name. Overall I think its too risky so I'll save my pennies and wait for a newer piano and have a technician look at it before buying. Thanks again everyone.

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You are very welcome.
Greetings from the Czech republic!

Re: Opinions wanted on 1969-70 Czech made Petrof for a newbie [Re: elinorAU] #2938961 01/26/20 07:06 PM
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I think this is wise. You can still get a used piano, but a newer one will likely have many improvements and give you peace of mind, which is a big deal as well.


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