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What can a beginner do to keep himself motivated? #2938580 01/25/20 07:40 PM
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I have problem with motivation. I find playing scales boring after awhile, yet I am not good enough to play songs.
What can I do to keep myself motivated?
I really want to learn piano as I want to worship God. But my piano skill is not good enough.

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Re: What can a beginner do to keep himself motivated? [Re: chongjasmine] #2938584 01/25/20 07:49 PM
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Your post suggests that you are not working with a teacher; if you were you probably wouldn't be asking this question here.

I would recommend that you begin using a series of method books - choose which publication you want to go with since there are lots of recommendations by various members in this forum - and start at the beginning. Most of those method books don't start out with scales but with simple compositions and they progress gradually into more elaborate and more interesting works. Doing nothing but scales may help your technique somewhat, but doing so wouldn't motivate me, either.

Of course the best motivator is a good teacher.

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Re: What can a beginner do to keep himself motivated? [Re: chongjasmine] #2938596 01/25/20 08:15 PM
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Scales are not necessary. Some practice them as a way to develop certain skills but they are certainly not mandatory. I just play pieces that I enjoy and increase my skills in a gradual manner. I use the Russian Method but Nickolaev. I would recommend, if you are self-studyinyg, that you find a method of learning that you enjoy and just practice the pieces with lots of relaxed repetition and keenly observe your practice. There are lots of YT channels that you can use for guidance, the Piano Career Academy but Illinca being my personal favorite. I self-study and have made beautiful progress in the manner I describe and observing my skills develop is all of the motivation I need. I love the process and what I learn from the process.

Re: What can a beginner do to keep himself motivated? [Re: chongjasmine] #2938599 01/25/20 08:23 PM
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Faber has hymn books. Why don't you just get a Piano Adventures book (maybe the accelerated book 1) and a supplemental hymn book? If that's too hard, try the normal level 1 books, or even the primers.

I'm not sure how anyone could stay motivated if they weren't ever playing actual music...

Re: What can a beginner do to keep himself motivated? [Re: chongjasmine] #2938601 01/25/20 08:30 PM
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You've also asked this same question before on PW. Take a look at that thread also for the earlier suggestions.

Something I didn't mention to you in that earlier thread. You appear to be very financially constrained. In this case, you might consider a good free method book series. Here is the Mayron Cole Piano Method, which is free for you to use online.


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Re: What can a beginner do to keep himself motivated? [Re: chongjasmine] #2938609 01/25/20 08:59 PM
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I find that mixing up my scales helps make them more interesting. I also find four octave scales to be more as you have the nice up and down to the sound. I also do splitting scales, two octaves up then you go two octaves in contrary motion makes things more fun. You can play chromatic scales, both normally and splitting. Then you can play scales in thirds, Major to Minor of the same note scales etc etc... be happy to share the fingerings I have been taught to help. I am a fan of scales, not only do your hands get stronger by playing larger scales, but you learn more from touch where each note is. I look it like perfecting one's penmanship and drawing so that you can make a beautiful illuminated manuscript, like the Book of Kells a stunning illuminated copy of four gospels from the New Testament. . You have to perfect the small things, before you can make something of true beauty like the Book of Kells.

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Originally Posted by chongjasmine

I really want to learn piano as I want to worship God. But my piano skill is not good enough.


“It may be that when the angels go about their task praising God, they play only Bach. I am sure, however, that when they are together en famille they play Mozart, and then God the Lord is especially delighted to listen to them."― Karl Barth

Whether Bach or Mozart, you won't go wrong, but I'm not sure about scales smirk .

BTW, the child Mozart composed several easy pieces suitable for beginners; with Bach (& his contemporaries), go to the Anna Magdalena Notebook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBeOgmwNJcQ

Both will give you much more motivation to keep plugging away.



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Originally Posted by chongjasmine
I find playing scales boring after awhile, yet I am not good enough to play songs.
What can I do to keep myself motivated?


Just my opinion but I don't think beginners should be playing scales as part of a daily regime, that can come later when you have developed some technique. Get straight into playing pieces so you can have some fun.


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Originally Posted by earlofmar
Originally Posted by chongjasmine
I find playing scales boring after awhile, yet I am not good enough to play songs.
What can I do to keep myself motivated?


Just my opinion but I don't think beginners should be playing scales as part of a daily regime, that can come later when you have developed some technique. Get straight into playing pieces so you can have some fun.

+1. Agree.

Re: What can a beginner do to keep himself motivated? [Re: chongjasmine] #2938723 01/26/20 08:34 AM
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I don´t know why playing scales is such a big deal. I was taught to play scales when I saw my first teacher at maybe the second lesson.
I do remember it was very hard to coordinate the fingers and play even C major scale with just one hand at the beginning, I had to think about every single movement for the first few days. However, it got better after a few weeks and now, after roughly a year of practicing scales regularly, I can play all major scales starting with a white key in both parallel and contrary motion - as many octaves as I want, back and forth without even thinking about the thumbs under etc. so that I can focus on other things such as accenting every 2.,3.,4.,5.,6.th beat, playing from piano to forte, playing scales using different rhythms etc. This is probably why I was taught to play scales at the beginning - apart from being the main building block of 99% of classical music, scales can also teach you a lot through translating exercises into them (e.g. accents, rhythms, legato touch, learning to stay relaxed while playing scales...).
Now after a year of playing, I´d have to learn them anyways so now I am glad I started some time ago and have some basics.
I have to admit that I actually enjoy playing scales. I understand that it might not be a good idea to force someone (a complete beginner) to play scales if that someone doesn´t like playing them or even hates it but the introduction to scales will have to come anyways.

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I’m with you, Tom. I really enjoy practicing my scales.

I find them a great indicator of how I am progressing and becoming more comfortable with the keyboard. I’m fascinated by how my brain rewires between practice sessions and how at the start of each practice, my scales have improved since the last session. I did make the mistake of taking on too many scales in one go but I've nearly caught up and won’t be adding any until I’ve got them all perfect and fully locked in to my brain.
I’m now two away from all of the major scales to two octaves.

Without a bit of working out, I couldn’t tell you which notes make up some of the scales .... but my fingers can smile

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A lot of people find scales boring. My teacher suggested playing off the Hanon 60 exercises book. Just 1 a day for no more than 15-20m max.

There are all sorts of repertoire books at the beginner's level. I have several hymn books with easy 1 note at a time bass lines and chord symbols.

In the first week of my playing, I got into "Holy, Holy, Holy", "Joyful, Joyful We Adore Thee" & "Amazing Grace" out of an easy hymn book from the Bastien series. I also have the "Easy Piano Classics". These are arrangements of popular Classical pieces with easy bass lines & chords for the L. The other book in my collection is "Jazz/Rock Course" Level 1 which is as basic as you can get with repeated melodies & bass lines when learning to read music. The "Alfred's Basic Piano Course" Level 1 & 2 has all sorts of easy song arrangements.

There are people who would get into playing "Chopsticks", "Twinkle" or "Lightly Row". There are a lot more interesting pieces than these including opera favorites, Canon in D, etc. in easy arrangements. You can go to a piano store that sells books and browse through the level 1 books from different series.

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My motivation comes from the music, scales have no place in that.

They do have their place though, for me that is when I'm too tired to concentrate or work or learn. Then there is a comfort in simple scales letting the muscles do the work and the brain just operate in observation mode and relax.


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