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Dynamics in individual improvisation inside interactivity. #2936925 01/21/20 10:57 PM
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I would like to talk about yesterday's rehearsal of my workshop: guitar, two keyboards, double bass and drums. Vocalists, to everyone's joy, did not come; and we were able to fully surrender to work on Dat' Der' by B. Timmons, and especially on improvisation. Between the three soloists, the keyboard player was the most advanced improviser, the pianist didn't feel very good in the improvisation line, while the guitarist had only blues phrases in his pocket, which he played rather randomly inside the chorus. Then I suggested playing in pairs for a long time, changing every four measures: keys (with the sound of a flute) and piano, keys and guitar; later keys, piano, guitar and bass. I practice this from time to time with every ensemble, and the students really like it. Sometimes I ask students to conduct a preliminary verbal dialogue, and then move on to instruments. There is no zero, the effect returns every time; this is the group dynamics, which begins to pull out from each much more than he could give alone.
Everyone began to play much better, the guitarist forgot to be afraid, and began to give out good blues ideas that he had not played before; and even the sound has improved. The keyboard player also improved, and his solo even deserved the transcription. By the way, during this session I did not have to play at all.
A student who has never been in this situation will not know what he is capable of! Ordinary jams in clubs do not provide such an opportunity.

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Re: Dynamics in individual improvisation inside interactivity. [Re: Nahum] #2936943 01/22/20 01:13 AM
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Nahum;
That’s wonderful!!!! What a great way to energize your musicians

Re: Dynamics in individual improvisation inside interactivity. [Re: Nahum] #2937012 01/22/20 08:23 AM
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Hi Nahum

I have done something similar on a number of occasions (not as a teacher, as I'm not!) and its a fun way to enhance your playing.
I think the lesser player learns from the better player, as there is much more clarity.
It also puts an end to people just blowing over the top all the time, which I had with a beginner alto sax player a few years ago. He was keen to play Jazz, but didn't understand that sometimes you just don't play at all. So he played virtually continually!

I also try dropping out and just listening to the other musicians, though sometimes that can be intimidating as the other person then feels exposed when playing a solo.

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Re: Dynamics in individual improvisation inside interactivity. [Re: Nahum] #2937241 01/22/20 04:59 PM
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Dogperson, thanks!

Simon, the whole idea is that in this format I knock out individual mat of ego from under the feet of each participant. Each of them is required to listen sticky to a partner and play exclusively by feeling, forgetting about the theory.


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