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VI Labs Modern U - new upright #2934757 01/16/20 11:15 AM
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"The VI Labs Modern U studio upright library is here. Visit www.vilabsaudio.com/modernu to order and to learn more.

Modern times call for a modern virtual piano: Highly detailed and intimate, clean and crisp, a new piano sampled with the finest gear in a modern space, able to shine or blend in as desired. Precision response using any controller, plus sophisticated controls and presets with tweakability rarely seen in a virtual piano. High res graphics, deep sampling and scripting but easy on the system. We're happy to introduce the Modern U, sampled from a brand new popular studio upright piano with a modern approach. 6 mics, real resonances, Sordino pedal, many presets included, and many more features make for the ultimate studio upright library."

Ruslan Sirota 3 minute demo - this is his own slow jazz. He makes anything sound great.
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Re: VI Labs Modern U - new upright [Re: newer player] #2934772 01/16/20 11:46 AM
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How does a modern piano differ from a non-modern one?

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Weird, I am seeing "PRODUCT NOT FOUND!" message on the page. That probably is a temporary glitch on their site?


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same for me "product not found"

however I was hoping for an updated version of a grand since the VI Labs Ravenscroft is one of the best sampled in my opinion. However I feel it's a bit on the bright side, I wished they sample a new grand piano with their expertise of the Ravenscroft since the playability and sound of the Ravenscroft is really really nice!

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to me the demo sounds simply impressive, really really good. At 1:58 in the video says 1400 release samples per microphone including staccato releases crucial for realism: what does it means? Is it a sort of missing link we never captured in any previous vst?

Re: VI Labs Modern U - new upright [Re: newer player] #2934861 01/16/20 01:46 PM
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I think "modern" is to the brighter, dynamic side of sound. For me... and this only my experience.... more to the Yamaha acoustics than say and old Steinway acoustics I played.

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Originally Posted by Bruce In Philly
I think "modern" is to the brighter, dynamic side of sound. For me... and this only my experience.... more to the Yamaha acoustics than say and old Steinway acoustics I played.

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I think any brand can sound modern, or less modern, and it really is more of an age thing. For example, compare the Vsl steinway to the Embertone Steinway, i'd say that is a good modern/not modern comparison, although the vsl is a german D, and the embertone an american, i believe.

Re: VI Labs Modern U - new upright [Re: newer player] #2934867 01/16/20 01:59 PM
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As used in this context I think it's just a cliched term ... meaningless.

Re: VI Labs Modern U - new upright [Re: newer player] #2935157 01/17/20 05:40 AM
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I love how VI says ‘100% sampled; no synthesis or modeling used’, as if that’s a good thing. Talk about spinning.

There’s no amount of sampling on earth that will come close to modeling things like ‘resonance’. Kawai and Yamaha have come to terms with this, and the overall improvement and liveliness of their respective new sound engines is notable. If you don’t believe me, ask CG!

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This sounds not bad but...

After buying the beautiful Ravenscroft 275, I bought another VI Labs product: True Keys bundle, and was disappointed. It simply belongs to a somewhat "cheaper league". Not bad, but not too impressing after some serious playing. So I am afraid to get another not too impressing plugin from VI Labs...

Re: VI Labs Modern U - new upright [Re: Pete14] #2935177 01/17/20 07:08 AM
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Good for them! Sampling is a real recorded piano. Modeling is 100% fake. I'll take real over fake.
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I love how VI says ‘100% sampled; no synthesis or modeling used’, as if that’s a good thing. Talk about spinning.

There’s no amount of sampling on earth that will come close to modeling things like ‘resonance’. Kawai and Yamaha have come to terms with this, and the overall improvement and liveliness of their respective new sound engines is notable. If you don’t believe me, ask CG!

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Mac, do you remember how much you loved the NV10? Dare I say that the ‘100% fake resonance modeling’ had something to do with that?

Re: VI Labs Modern U - new upright [Re: Pete14] #2935207 01/17/20 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete14
I love how VI says ‘100% sampled; no synthesis or modeling used’, as if that’s a good thing. Talk about spinning.

There’s no amount of sampling on earth that will come close to modeling things like ‘resonance’. Kawai and Yamaha have come to terms with this, and the overall improvement and liveliness of their respective new sound engines is notable. If you don’t believe me, ask CG!

Well, 100% sampling is much better than 100% modeling. Talk Garritan CFX and VSL vs Pianoteq smile There's simply no comparison.


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Re: VI Labs Modern U - new upright [Re: CyberGene] #2935212 01/17/20 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete14
I love how VI says ‘100% sampled; no synthesis or modeling used’, as if that’s a good thing. Talk about spinning.

There’s no amount of sampling on earth that will come close to modeling things like ‘resonance’. Kawai and Yamaha have come to terms with this, and the overall improvement and liveliness of their respective new sound engines is notable. If you don’t believe me, ask CG!

Well, 100% sampling is much better than 100% modeling. Talk Garritan CFX and VSL vs Pianoteq smile There's simply no comparison.


Yea. The Garritan CFX is much less playable than PianoTeq but sounds better.

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Originally Posted by Pete14
I love how VI says ‘100% sampled; no synthesis or modeling used’, as if that’s a good thing. Talk about spinning.

There’s no amount of sampling on earth that will come close to modeling things like ‘resonance’. Kawai and Yamaha have come to terms with this, and the overall improvement and liveliness of their respective new sound engines is notable. If you don’t believe me, ask CG!

Well, 100% sampling is much better than 100% modeling. Talk Garritan CFX and VSL vs Pianoteq smile There's simply no comparison.


Yea. The Garritan CFX is much less playable than PianoTeq but sounds better.

Garritan CFX is much MORE playable than Pianoteq IMO.


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