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Yamaha MIDI grand? #2933716 01/14/20 12:53 PM
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I've had a Yamaha CP-70M for years (bought it new in the 1980s) and I still use it to drive my Yamaha Motif that has a high-quality Steinway D sample. Still love the keyboard action on the CP-70M (vs weighted controllers) but the wife says the CP-70M is ugly sitting in our Piano room (lol), and why don't I get a "real" grand piano to replace it.

I've heard that Yamaha sold MIDI enabled grand pianos (C-series?) in the 1980s and 1990s, but I can't find out what the model numbers are for those. Now, I am reading there are "silent" grand pianos available, which presumably have a MIDI-out interface so I can still drive my Motif that has the Steinway D sample that I love.

I would be in the market for a previously-owned such MIDI-enabled Yamaha Grand, and wondering what my options are. Don't want/need the Disklavier models, just something I can play as-is, or use the silent/MIDI-out feature to drive my Motif.

What are my options / what should I look for out in the marketplace for sale?

Thanks,

Bela P. Havasreti
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Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: Bela P. Havasreti] #2933719 01/14/20 01:02 PM
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Not to paralyze you with options, but for a (relatively) small fee a Silent System can be installed in pretty much any piano.

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Originally Posted by sleutelbos
Not to paralyze you with options, but for a (relatively) small fee a Silent System can be installed in pretty much any piano.


Huh?

Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: Pete14] #2933764 01/14/20 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete14
Originally Posted by sleutelbos
Not to paralyze you with options, but for a (relatively) small fee a Silent System can be installed in pretty much any piano.


Huh?


As in there’s no need to search for a piano which specifically has a silent system already installed... one could get a silent system installed on any (apparently) acoustic piano after purchase, which means that the OP could potentially get any acoustic piano he/she wants. smile

A quick google brought this up, and I’m sure there are other systems out there:
https://www.sussexpianos.co.uk/accessories/silent-systems

So as long as it has MIDI out, it’ll fit the bill.

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Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: OscarRamsey] #2933809 01/14/20 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sleutelbos
Not to paralyze you with options, but for a (relatively) small fee a Silent System can be installed in pretty much any piano.


Huh?


As in there’s no need to search for a piano which specifically has a silent system already installed... one could get a silent system installed on any (apparently) acoustic piano after purchase, which means that the OP could potentially get any acoustic piano he/she wants. smile

A quick google brought this up, and I’m sure there are other systems out there:
https://www.sussexpianos.co.uk/accessories/silent-systems

So as long as it has MIDI out, it’ll fit the bill.


Precisely, there are various options and they typically range in the 1000-1500GBP range. So that can quite expend the range of options you have if your primary demand is MIDI out and 'being a real piano'. smile

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Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: sleutelbos] #2933820 01/14/20 04:32 PM
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Thank you for the information. This is likely the path I will take (find / purchase the Yamaha Grand Piano I like, then have the silent system added to it). I am on the West Coast of the USA, so converting GBP to US dollars above suggests the modification can be done for US $1.5K - $2K, which is palatable. Forgive my ignorance, but just what are the silent kit options? I have seen reference to a PianoDisc system, but it appears to be more of a Player Piano / Disklavier add-on kit than just a silent conversion kit. Many thanks in advance again,

Bela P. Havasreti

Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: Bela P. Havasreti] #2933843 01/14/20 05:27 PM
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Just to throw another spanner in your thinking.

there are some nice looking digital pianos these days. Since you have been playing a non acoustic piano you may not have a real desire or need for one. Yamaha AvantGrand series, Yamaha Clavinova 695, Kawai NV10 are digital piano options I'd consider in your situation as well.

You have some exciting options to consider I think.

Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: Bela P. Havasreti] #2933850 01/14/20 05:33 PM
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Take a look at the PNOscan system:

https://www.qrsmusic.com/PNOScan.asp

Optical sensors with MIDI output, from any grand piano.

The residents of the "Pianos" forum, here, often discuss "silent pianos" and occasionally, MIDI conversions.


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Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: Bela P. Havasreti] #2933925 01/14/20 07:48 PM
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If your primary interest is using the piano as a midi controller, you might consider a grand piano shell with a digital piano.


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Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: Bela P. Havasreti] #2934032 01/15/20 04:04 AM
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I don’t recommend Yamaha silent SN series purchases.
The reason is that the main digital board and sensor circuit will be not available near year.
I don’t recommend be fitted with a retrofit silent system to grand piano.
Yamaha's silent system is special and the action structure is completely different from normal piano.
(Double escapement action,hammer and key sensor)
I recommend Yamaha's Avan Grand Series or Silent SG Series or higher.


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Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: Bela P. Havasreti] #2934078 01/15/20 07:12 AM
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Huh?

Re: Yamaha MIDI grand? [Re: KevinM] #2934277 01/15/20 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete14
Huh?


Sshhh! This is a thread about silent pianos. wink

Originally Posted by KevinM
Just to throw another spanner in your thinking.

there are some nice looking digital pianos these days. Since you have been playing a non acoustic piano you may not have a real desire or need for one. Yamaha AvantGrand series, Yamaha Clavinova 695, Kawai NV10 are digital piano options I'd consider in your situation as well.

You have some exciting options to consider I think.



Yes, there are some digitals that look like baby grand pianos too. You never know until you see/try them. That could be an option too!

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