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Question to jazz teachers - theorists #2931561 01/08/20 12:12 PM
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This is Herbie Hancock's voicing from Freedom Jazz Dance with Miles :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ11cArknek - 0:24


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I tried to explain it through the connection with the harmonics system: [Linked Image]

and the following came out: [Linked Image]

Any ideas?

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Re: Question to jazz teachers - theorists [Re: Nahum] #2931568 01/08/20 12:35 PM
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Bb79 #9 11 #11 13


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Re: Question to jazz teachers - theorists [Re: Nahum] #2931601 01/08/20 02:44 PM
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I do not hear an Eb on top.
For me it is a typical "Duke Ellington voicing" for dominant chords. A superposition of 2 diminished chords. In this case some tones of Do7 in the lower register and some of the Bbo7 in the upper.

Re: Question to jazz teachers - theorists [Re: Nahum] #2931720 01/08/20 07:03 PM
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I guess you pulled that from an album.....that Eb on top is a passing tone? Basically Bb 13+11.


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Originally Posted by Cudo
I do not hear an Eb on top.
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If you slow down the speed and equalize in the direction of adding treble, the Eb is heard clearly. In addition, each listening pianist, both classical and jazz, equalizes the chords with fingers, highlighting certain voices and establishing a general balance. As for high overtones, equivalent to the most dissonant tensions in the chord, their natural sound is much quieter. For example, in my construction C7 - Fmaj7 :

E - - D#
Bb - B
F - - E
__ __
C# - C
E - - F

top voice E-D# I will play quieter than the rest.


Originally Posted by Rob Mullins
I guess you pulled that from an album.....that Eb on top is a passing tone? Basically Bb 13+11.

A single isolated chord cannot contain passing notes due to the lack of movement of internal voices.

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