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It's only a couple of hundred bucks different. Why would someone pick one or the other?

Does the CA48 have better keys?

I've looked at the Kawai website, didn't see any info on the differences between these two.

All comments welcome.

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It looks like the CN29 has the RHIII action, while the CA48 has the arguable better GFC action. (I'm goint strictly by what I've read here; I've never played either.))


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If between those to models I would go for the CA48. I liked the GFC action when I played a CA58. YMMV smile


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The CN29 has plastic action, the CA48 has wooden action which is supposed to feel better. The CA48 came out in 2017 and the CN29 came out this year. They both have the same sound engine and same Polyphony.

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CA48 for sure. I played all of Kawai's current DPs back to back for several hours and the only one I felt the action was limited by was the CN29 and the only one I wouldn't purchase. The CA48 will take you farther in development with its GFC action and can be had for a very reasonable price.

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I'd definitely concur with the above replies. The CN29/39 are okay and a step up from real entry-level instruments, but the GFC action of the CA48 & 58 is a real step up again. It's the only action I'd consider at sub £2000 (unless I could get into a GF2 instrument!).

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Originally Posted by LS35A
It's only a couple of hundred bucks different. Why would someone pick one or the other?

Does the CA48 have better keys?

I've looked at the Kawai website, didn't see any info on the differences between these two.

All comments welcome.



heck LS35A, please refer to the following spec comparison:

https://www.kawai-global.com/product_comparison/detail.php?n=2512,3325&ct=36

As noted above, the CA48 features a wooden key keyboard action, however it also offers a 4-speaker speaker system and a larger cabinet. Note that the CN29 is newer than the CA48 and therefore offers some improvements to the interface and amplification system.

My recommendation would be to play-test both models and chosen the instrument you enjoy playing the most.

I hope this helps.

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Hi everyone

I've been looking into these models extensively.
Here's a helpful comparison chart
https://www.kawai.co.uk/products/digitalpianos/comparison/ca58,ca48,cn29/

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Originally Posted by Pianoguy723
CA48 for sure. I played all of Kawai's current DPs back to back for several hours and the only one I felt the action was limited by was the CN29 and the only one I wouldn't purchase. The CA48 will take you farther in development with its GFC action and can be had for a very reasonable price.

When you say you felt the CN29 action "limited", exactly what you mean? You feel you have less dynamic control in your playing or you feel it's more difficult to play close to the fallboard? Or something else?

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CA48 for sure. I played all of Kawai's current DPs back to back for several hours and the only one I felt the action was limited by was the CN29 and the only one I wouldn't purchase. The CA48 will take you farther in development with its GFC action and can be had for a very reasonable price.

When you say you felt the CN29 action "limited", exactly what you mean? You feel you have less dynamic control in your playing or you feel it's more difficult to play close to the fallboard? Or something else?


Yes I'm curious too. To me the CN29/39 keys seemed a bit better side-by-side than those of the ES8 (both RH3). The wooden action of the CAx8 seemed different, good, but also odd in some ways so I couldn't say that it was better (the way it is advertised). But I'm no so skilled, fast etc.
I didn't spot the difference in the sound engine which I wasn't aware of in advance (some PHI, some HI-XL - different sample lengths).
Differences in built-in speakers and amp power were quite notable, for instance the CN39 sounded better than the CN29 at moderate volumes, and the higher CA models could produce more volume.

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Both models are on the same range, CA48 is better mostrly because the action and better speaker system. So it depends on how much you can pay, the CA58 offer more features like usb record and line out if you are interested. If you cant go that hight, the CA39 is a more complete version of the CA29 (considering you want those extra features)

At least for me the 2 factors in the different action is the lenght key, wich makes it easier to play at the top of the keys, and the overall feel, you feel a better response or weight on the keys, with the folded keys even when they try to simulate it you get some difference from playing a hollow plastic key than a solid wood one.

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