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What challenges are your current pieces giving you? #2922131 12/12/19 02:51 AM
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For me, a certain Sergei loves to throw around 10th chords in his music, which I can't play easily with my non-Sergei handspan.


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Re: What challenges are your current pieces giving you? [Re: rach3master] #2922246 12/12/19 12:41 PM
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The same Sergei loves to write block chords in one hand while negotiating octave jumps in the other. In particular the recap of the main theme in Etude Tableau No. 5, Opus 39.
And the infamous coda of the 2nd movement of Schumann's Fantasy in C. The accuracy of hitting those jumping high notes with the right little finger is always a challenge. Ditto the left hand little finger in contrary motion at the same time. And of course the octave jumps at the very end, with contrary motion in both hands, octaves and chords. After months of slow practice, accuracy is still hit and miss.


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Re: What challenges are your current pieces giving you? [Re: rach3master] #2922318 12/12/19 05:07 PM
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The finale of Bach Busoni Chaconne D minor. I've completed the piece but those rolling descending chords on the L hand paired with arpeggios on the R hand played at break neck speed. That's a killer for me. Hard to keep it all together.

Starts at 13:40 of this vid:



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Re: What challenges are your current pieces giving you? [Re: rach3master] #2922406 12/12/19 10:02 PM
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I just realized something. After listening through the entire video I loved Kissin’s interpretation of this piece until the last very last chord. What was he thinking? Is this even allowed? That’s like having sex and deciding to read a book at the last second. The piece climaxes and cries for resolution to a D major chord and he ends with D minor? Does anyone know if it was written with this alternative ending?

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Re: What challenges are your current pieces giving you? [Re: Jethro] #2922410 12/12/19 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jethro
I just realized something. After listening through the entire video I loved Kissin’s interpretation of this piece until the last very last chord. What was he thinking? Is this even allowed? That’s like having sex and deciding to read a book at the last second. The piece climaxes and cries for resolution to a D major chord and he ends with D minor? Does anyone know if it was written with this alternative ending?
I think the ending can be D major or D minor or just octave Ds.

Re: What challenges are your current pieces giving you? [Re: pianoloverus] #2922526 12/13/19 11:38 AM
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I just realized something. After listening through the entire video I loved Kissin’s interpretation of this piece until the last very last chord. What was he thinking? Is this even allowed? That’s like having sex and deciding to read a book at the last second. The piece climaxes and cries for resolution to a D major chord and he ends with D minor? Does anyone know if it was written with this alternative ending?
I think the ending can be D major or D minor or just octave Ds.

Oh I didn't know that. Is that written in the score? Busoni gives us options in certain sections, personally I prefer the smaller notation in the section just prior to the ascending rolling chords. Helene Grimaud plays it this way. The octave D's I could understand, but that D minor chord at the end just sounds wrong to me and I don't see a d minor chord written in my edition. Listen to Helene's ending with a D major chord. To me it sounds like it's needed to release all that building tension. Interesting that Kissin decided to end the piece this way.

I love how both of these talented pianists interpret this piece but I prefer Grimaude's last minute or so in the finale.





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Re: What challenges are your current pieces giving you? [Re: rach3master] #2923176 12/15/19 02:33 PM
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I was testing out my new Zoom H1n and practicing this section. This is what happens when a mostly self taught piano player with 5 years worth of adult lessons gets you. The chance to be owned by two world class professionals. In all fairness I just finished this section a month ago so give me a year and I think I can give it a run for it's money. At the very least I can play the very last chord much better than Kissin laugh

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Re: What challenges are your current pieces giving you? [Re: rach3master] #2923183 12/15/19 02:58 PM
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For me it's the LH octaves from Gubaidulina's Chaconne starting at 5:15. The passage starts on C then jumps up a 5th, down a 3rd. The up and down sequence continues until D is reached, and then it drops by thirds until it reaches the C again.

My problem is that I have to use a lower wrist than I'd like, as it's all on white notes and my 4th finger has a tendency to crash into black notes, as I am unable to straighten it on my left hand while playing octaves with 1 and 5 without causing tension. This is the only piece where this is a problem. Normally I'd bounce from one octave to the next, but I'm afraid to do that with a low wrist.


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Originally Posted by johnstaf
For me it's the LH octaves from Gubaidulina's Chaconne starting at 5:15. The passage starts on C then jumps up a 5th, down a 3rd. The up and down sequence continues until D is reached, and then it drops by thirds until it reaches the C again.

My problem is that I have to use a lower wrist than I'd like, as it's all on white notes and my 4th finger has a tendency to crash into black notes, as I am unable to straighten it on my left hand while playing octaves with 1 and 5 without causing tension. This is the only piece where this is a problem. Normally I'd bounce from one octave to the next, but I'm afraid to do that with a low wrist.




My gosh that piece is insane!


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Re: What challenges are your current pieces giving you? [Re: rach3master] #2923308 12/15/19 08:46 PM
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Working more diligently through Book II of the Well Tempered Clavier than I did when I was younger. Hitting the right notes at the right time is the challenge. grin ...that is, the challenge is -- as always with Bach -- precision and clarity.

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Liszt's b minor sonata - depressive thoughts

Re: What challenges are your current pieces giving you? [Re: Jethro] #2923389 12/16/19 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jethro
That’s like having sex and deciding to read a book at the last second.


Who here hasn't done that??

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This year, I attempted the Chopin Scherzo op.39.
Challenges: Everything.
Hitting the right notes in the fast passages, memorizing the right notes with the slower chord passages, all the while trying to make it sound like music...

It helped to think of playing this piece like riding a motorbike. Watch where you are going, anticipate the next turns, don't panic when you are slightly off the ideal track...


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