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I had played for quite a while without any teacher feedback, and when I finally got teacher feedback on a video I had submitted, the teacher insisted I start with the Beginners' course, lesson one. This was not easy for me to accept, but I did as she told me. There were several hurdles in this Beginners' course - I remember particularly a technique that my teacher calls the push-wrist and that I thought was impossible to learn. I sometimes doubted if I would succeed in getting a pass on all eight mandatory lessons in this Beginners' course and I felt envious of other students, who had done this course and happily chose whatever they felt like from the Intermediate course.

It is now more than half a year ago since I passed the Beginners' course. Since then, I have played pieces from the Intermediate course level 1, and today I submitted my first level 2 piece. And I realise - the beginners' hurdles are definitely past! I now longer have any doubt that I will be able to learn to play the piano - because, yes, I know now, I can learn this.

In front of me now are years of inevitable progress, as long as I continue to practise diligently, of course. Certainly, there will be minor hurdles on the way, and I may feel at times that nothing is happening, but even when that happens, I know now that it is part of the process. Fortunately, I am a slow progressor, so it will be many years before I'll reach the final limit of what I can learn. smile


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Fantastic. 🎵🎂🍾

I like how you have made being a slow progressor a positive by providing more time to enjoy the journey. I am bit slow myself so I like this.

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Originally Posted by Animisha
I had played for quite a while without any teacher feedback, and when I finally got teacher feedback on a video I had submitted, the teacher insisted I start with the Beginners' course, lesson one. This was not easy for me to accept, but I did as she told me. There were several hurdles in this Beginners' course - I remember particularly a technique that my teacher calls the push-wrist and that I thought was impossible to learn. I sometimes doubted if I would succeed in getting a pass on all eight mandatory lessons in this Beginners' course and I felt envious of other students, who had done this course and happily chose whatever they felt like from the Intermediate course.

It is now more than half a year ago since I passed the Beginners' course. Since then, I have played pieces from the Intermediate course level 1, and today I submitted my first level 2 piece. And I realise - the beginners' hurdles are definitely past! I now longer have any doubt that I will be able to learn to play the piano - because, yes, I know now, I can learn this.

In front of me now are years of inevitable progress, as long as I continue to practise diligently, of course. Certainly, there will be minor hurdles on the way, and I may feel at times that nothing is happening, but even when that happens, I know now that it is part of the process. Fortunately, I am a slow progressor, so it will be many years before I'll reach the final limit of what I can learn. smile




Which of your two courses did you submit the video to?



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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
Which of your two courses did you submit the video to?

This was ArtistWorks, with Christie Peery.


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That sounds amazing. When I began with my current teacher, we had to go back to some basics, but it was worth it. Getting those fundamentals right is important. Keep it up!


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Originally Posted by KevinM
Fantastic. 🎵🎂🍾

I like how you have made being a slow progressor a positive by providing more time to enjoy the journey. I am bit slow myself so I like this.


Yes Kevin, it is such an enjoyable journey, so why rush through it?


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Originally Posted by Animisha
Originally Posted by NobleHouse
Which of your two courses did you submit the video to?

This was ArtistWorks, with Christie Peery.



How do you like her style of feedback?



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Originally Posted by Animisha
I had played for quite a while without any teacher feedback, and when I finally got teacher feedback on a video I had submitted, the teacher insisted I start with the Beginners' course, lesson one. This was not easy for me to accept, but I did as she told me. There were several hurdles in this Beginners' course - I remember particularly a technique that my teacher calls the push-wrist and that I thought was impossible to learn. I sometimes doubted if I would succeed in getting a pass on all eight mandatory lessons in this Beginners' course and I felt envious of other students, who had done this course and happily chose whatever they felt like from the Intermediate course.

It is now more than half a year ago since I passed the Beginners' course. Since then, I have played pieces from the Intermediate course level 1, and today I submitted my first level 2 piece. And I realise - the beginners' hurdles are definitely past! I now longer have any doubt that I will be able to learn to play the piano - because, yes, I know now, I can learn this.

In front of me now are years of inevitable progress, as long as I continue to practise diligently, of course. Certainly, there will be minor hurdles on the way, and I may feel at times that nothing is happening, but even when that happens, I know now that it is part of the process. Fortunately, I am a slow progressor, so it will be many years before I'll reach the final limit of what I can learn. smile

So proud of you!!! 🤩


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Originally Posted by Animisha
I had played for quite a while without any teacher feedback, and when I finally got teacher feedback on a video I had submitted, the teacher insisted I start with the Beginners' course, lesson one. This was not easy for me to accept, but I did as she told me......
Didn't have to read further than this to know that you'd make a success of it! Not so much blind obedience to a teacher, but that you were willing to step back and make the necessary changes. thumb


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congratulations, just being able to see the bigger picture and stick with it day by day is something not everyone can do. A slow systematic approach will take you far, perhaps even farther than you think.


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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
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Which of your two courses did you submit the video to?

This was ArtistWorks, with Christie Peery.



How do you like her style of feedback?

Hi NobleHouse,

I learned very much from Christie, also because for about half a year, she was the only teacher who gave me feedback. Sometimes she wrote down her feedback, once she referred to other videos, and several times she made a video for me. The quality of her feedback has been good. But no, I am personally not so happy with her style of feedback. It is not just feedback - she wants her students to "certify". If you send a video, and it gets approved immediately, you get certified "high honors", if you get it appproved after your second submission, it is "honors", and after that, just certified. Now this is not my preferred style. It is the feedback I am interested in, not certification and high honors - even though, I have to admit, it certainly looks nice when you see "Certified High Honors" underneath your video. Still, this certification system naturally makes me feel that I always have to play as if it is an audition, and I am not fond of that. Yes, if you have a problem with something, it is possible to make a video of your problem and send it to her, knowing perfectly well it won't be certified, but once the problem is solved, you're supposed to send a proper video.

Yuko at PCA has a more gentle style. It is more feedback in the true sense of the word. Yes, sometimes she asks people to submit a piece again - I always do this after I got important feedback, but there is not a word about certification. Sometimes she writes, let's move on to the next piece, and then you move on. I also feel with Yuko that she keeps more track of my development. But that may also be because she is new as a feedback teacher, whereas Christie has given feedback for many years now, to many people.

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Originally Posted by Animisha
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Which of your two courses did you submit the video to?

This was ArtistWorks, with Christie Peery.



How do you like her style of feedback?

Hi NobleHouse,

I learned very much from Christie, also because for about half a year, she was the only teacher who gave me feedback. Sometimes she wrote down her feedback, once she referred to other videos, and several times she made a video for me. The quality of her feedback has been good. But no, I am personally not so happy with her style of feedback. It is not just feedback - she wants her students to "certify". If you send a video, and it gets approved immediately, you get certified "high honors", if you get it appproved after your second submission, it is "honors", and after that, just certified. Now this is not my preferred style. It is the feedback I am interested in, not certification and high honors - even though, I have to admit, it certainly looks nice when you see "Certified High Honors" underneath your video. Still, this certification system naturally makes me feel that I always have to play as if it is an audition, and I am not fond of that. Yes, if you have a problem with something, it is possible to make a video of your problem and send it to her, knowing perfectly well it won't be certified, but once the problem is solved, you're supposed to send a proper video.

Yuko at PCA has a more gentle style. It is more feedback in the true sense of the word. Yes, sometimes she asks people to submit a piece again - I always do this after I got important feedback, but there is not a word about certification. Sometimes she writes, let's move on to the next piece, and then you move on. I also feel with Yuko that she keeps more track of my development. But that may also be because she is new as a feedback teacher, whereas Christie has given feedback for many years now, to many people.



Thank you so much for the feedback. It is extremely helpful to me!



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Hello @Animisha - congratulations on your achievements and the slow progress. I've started learning the piano about a month ago and I love it. I am mainly interested in classical, but would love to occasionally play some jazz every now and then.

I've worked on my musicianship (through this Developing Your Musicianship - Berklee School of Music Coursera specialization) and it helped a lot. Also learned some few songs by Hugh Sung (because I was desparate to sound good at first) but I think I need more emphasis on technique for the long term success.

After a year of your acheivement, do you think it helped you? Have you gained any return in playing pieces? And would you do it again? And would you prefer Christie Peery or Ilinca?

Thanks so much and congratulations once again!

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Hi Mustafa and welcome to ABF!

How nice that you have started with the piano and are loving it.

Just as I wrote above, I am still progressing, and I am very happy with it. I don't know what you mean by your question if I have gained any return in playing pieces, but I certainly would do it again. I think that Ilinca (PianoCareerAcademy) is much better than Christie. The lessons are much more elaborate and take you step by step through the process of learning how to play the piano. Ilinca is a bit more expensive than Christie, but Ilinca provides all the music (the score) as downloadable links, whereas for Christie you have to buy quite a few books.

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I award you Certified Magnificently High Honors for your persistence and Extra Super Duper Sky High Honors for your enjoyment of the journey.


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Originally Posted by Animisha
I learned very much from Christie...

Yuko at PCA has a more gentle style

Are you still submiting videos to those two platforms? I mean, are you combining the two courses?

I feel like the king of long term non-progressors, so my congrats.


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I award you Certified Magnificently High Honors for your persistence and Extra Super Duper Sky High Honors for your enjoyment of the journey.

Malkin, thank you so much for your certification! It means a lot to me.

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Originally Posted by Sol Finker
Originally Posted by Animisha
I learned very much from Christie...

Yuko at PCA has a more gentle style

Are you still submiting videos to those two platforms? I mean, are you combining the two courses?

No, I stopped with Christie. Apart from feeling that when the pieces got more difficult, it was too much to submit to two different sites, there were differences in technique. For instance, Christie teaches something she calls the "push-wrist" (in the lesson for Chimes) and I had to unlearn it for PCA.

And, even though I learned very much from Christie, I learned more from Ilinca. Much more.

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I feel like the king of long term non-progressors, so my congrats.

My five cents: subscribe to PCA, start with lesson 1 or with lesson 30, depending on your present level, and submit a piece to the feedback teacher every single week. One year from now, you won't feel anymore that you are the king of long term non-progressors. cool

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