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Another mental health thread: What if.... #2920498 12/06/19 08:43 PM
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What if a piano teacher were also a psychotherapist or psychiatrist who would listen to my current woes, prescribe meds, and then instead of talk therapy, would teach piano, and health insurance would pay for it?!


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Re: Another mental health thread: What if.... [Re: malkin] #2920505 12/06/19 09:14 PM
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Music Therapy is a recognized subset of psychological and psychiatric treatments.


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Re: Another mental health thread: What if.... [Re: malkin] #2920508 12/06/19 09:36 PM
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Is there something you’d like to talk about, Malkin?


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That would be nice. I’d sign up for 2 hr classes every week.


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Re: Another mental health thread: What if.... [Re: malkin] #2920514 12/06/19 11:03 PM
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No; I want my lesson time devoted to lessons.

Given the training that an excellent teacher should have as well as the training that the other professionals in your list would need to have, I would be wary that the teacher/psychotherapist/psychiatrist would be a "jack of all trades and master of none." What kind of education would a person like that have to have to be effective in any or all of the areas?

I get what medications I need from my family doctor.

Moreover, I'm not in the habit of discussing my personal life with so-called professionals.

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Re: Another mental health thread: What if.... [Re: malkin] #2920578 12/07/19 08:23 AM
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The pianistic Stockholm syndrome?


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Re: Another mental health thread: What if.... [Re: malkin] #2920584 12/07/19 08:39 AM
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Given the demons I cope with, an exorcist would be top of my list.


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Re: Another mental health thread: What if.... [Re: malkin] #2920600 12/07/19 09:37 AM
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Malkin, it is a lovely idea. But too much to ask for one person to both educate themselves as a psychotherapist and then educate themselves to become a piano teacher. And piano is just one form of art that doesn't suit everybody. If I may expand on your dreams, I see a lovely clinic in the mountains, with mental health professionals, with art therapy, music therapy, dance therapy, and yes, piano lessons, creative writinig class, drama. Add to that the possibility of long walks, massages, healthy food. All paid for by our insurance of course!


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Re: Another mental health thread: What if.... [Re: malkin] #2920602 12/07/19 09:41 AM
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I consider playing and learning the piano along the lines of meditation or yoga. For me it’s time for silent prayers of gratitude. My fingers and feet get mild exercise, my brain is working, and the music relaxes me. I think piano teachers hear enough whining and excuses as it is without adding psychological or psychiatric counseling to the mix.
I would be the absolute worst piano teacher. My advice would always be “if you would just practice instead of just dreaming up excuses for why you’re not progressing, you might actually be progressing.”


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Originally Posted by Animisha
Malkin, it is a lovely idea. But too much to ask for one person to both educate themselves as a psychotherapist and then educate themselves to become a piano teacher. And piano is just one form of art that doesn't suit everybody. If I may expand on your dreams, I see a lovely clinic in the mountains, with mental health professionals, with art therapy, music therapy, dance therapy, and yes, piano lessons, creative writinig class, drama. Add to that the possibility of long walks, massages, healthy food. All paid for by our insurance of course!


I like your thinking.

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Music is already a good therapy against stress. I wouldn't get into drug addiction and possible side-effects of taking drugs. I know a man who got into playing piano but he has an addiction problem with prescription painkillers that he got his doctor to prescribe every month for many years. The people closest to him think he needed the medications to help him cope with his stress. i'd say the drugs made his condition worse.

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Originally Posted by Animisha
Malkin, it is a lovely idea. But too much to ask for one person to both educate themselves as a psychotherapist and then educate themselves to become a piano teacher. And piano is just one form of art that doesn't suit everybody. If I may expand on your dreams, I see a lovely clinic in the mountains, with mental health professionals, with art therapy, music therapy, dance therapy, and yes, piano lessons, creative writinig class, drama. Add to that the possibility of long walks, massages, healthy food. All paid for by our insurance of course!


I wonder where that could all happen. Perhaps Malkin knows somewhere.


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Originally Posted by Animisha
Malkin, it is a lovely idea. But too much to ask for one person to both educate themselves as a psychotherapist and then educate themselves to become a piano teacher. And piano is just one form of art that doesn't suit everybody. If I may expand on your dreams, I see a lovely clinic in the mountains, with mental health professionals, with art therapy, music therapy, dance therapy, and yes, piano lessons, creative writinig class, drama. Add to that the possibility of long walks, massages, healthy food. All paid for by our insurance of course!


I wonder where that could all happen. Perhaps Malkin knows somewhere.

There are many health spas like this in France, Austria, and Switzerland. Well, all except the piano lessons, writing lessons, and drama. Never seen that sort of stuff on the agenda. Those sorts of place are more likely to offer eight different flavors of yoga, before they offer a piano class! laugh


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Re: Another mental health thread: What if.... [Re: malkin] #2920676 12/07/19 12:50 PM
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My teacher taught the odd student on the NHS but that was about playing injuries.

Re: Another mental health thread: What if.... [Re: malkin] #2920684 12/07/19 01:32 PM
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"Substitution" is an acceptable positive defense mechanism.
Instead you can start a Bridge club with background piano music!
I proposed this at a bar but was told it's for older women with too much time to spare.... or learn !...
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Originally Posted by piano_primo_1
"Substitution" is an acceptable positive defense mechanism.
Instead you can start a Bridge club with background piano music!
I proposed this at a bar but was told it's for older women with too much time to spare.... or learn !...
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better yet ... i know people who love this pic...
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A bicycle. Ride it like a pack o' dogs are behind you, humming Beethoven's Pathetique (fast bit) and then call in the spa for a relaxing massage, still sweating profusely. They'll like that. I believe the Swedes know a think or two about massage, and you can ask 'em nicely to turn down the Abba background if they wouldn't mind. . .


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Originally Posted by piano_primo_1
Originally Posted by piano_primo_1
"Substitution" is an acceptable positive defense mechanism.
Instead you can start a Bridge club with background piano music!
I proposed this at a bar but was told it's for older women with too much time to spare.... or learn !...
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Originally Posted by petersw

A bicycle. Ride it like a pack o' dogs are behind you,
........humming Beethoven's Pathetique (fast bit) and then call in the spa for a relaxing massage, still sweating profusely. They'll like that. I believe the Swedes know a think or two about massage, and you can ask 'em nicely to turn down the Abba background if they wouldn't mind. . .


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I like the spa idea.... I don't think the spas are free where I am ....:)



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...and you can ask 'em nicely to turn down the Abba background if they wouldn't mind. . .

I like ABBA backgrounds.

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