@Tyr What was you thoughts about the pedals?

I find it interesting that the action is so much quieter on the NV5 than the N1UX.

Tyr, could you make a recording of you playing something, with the sound off so we can just hear the sound of your action? I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the action on your N1UX. Because the difference shouldn't be so big.

Tyr you make that nv5 sure sound promising, can't wait to try one!

The damper pedal is a bit on the heavier side due to the damper mechanism (similar to the NV10) which makes the action lighter when the pedal is pressed down. The control over the sustain effect works good. It doesn't feel uncomfortable.

Yes, I’m hoping for current NV10 owners to try this NV5 and further fill us in on the specifics.

If it turns out that even -more- NV10 owners feel that the NV5 indeed sounds ‘better’, that would be somewhat unexpected considering that the NV10 is supposed to be the flagship (sorry, Mac).

The NU1X does have a "Noisy" action. I don't notice it but if I was playing on headphones with someone else in the room they would definitely hear it. I wonder if Kawaii took this into account when creating the keyboard for the NV5? On an acoustic the noise factor of the keyboard doesn't really matter but on a hybrid in some cases like for Tyr it could be an issue. This could be another area, in addition to the soundboard, where Kawaii is advancing the design of hybrid DPs.

What is making the acoustical action quieter, then?

I don't think Kawai took it into account by intent, to have a more quiet action. It's still louder than Non-Hybrid actions but not as loud as the NV10 or NU1X one.

They aren't, it's just that acoustic pianos are never played at such low volume where the action noise will be too apparent. The exceptions is silent/aptx/TS/Aures etc. and in these cases I think the action is as loud as in hybrids.

There's a lot you CAN do to quiet down the action in an acoustic piano, it's just never really been much of a necessity (I guess short of silent pianos).

You could damp the cabinet, use thicker/more felts, or different materials (e.g., as Kawai does on the stop bar), etc. The geometry probably matters too; I always feel like the NU1 has a short, stiff throw, which could be part of the reason its keys clack/thump fairly loudly. A keybed with different movement characteristics could sound very different...

But all of this is making the NV5 to sound like a very enticing instrument.

wow the NV5 looks better and better, thanks @Tyr. I was more focused on a CS11 (or successor) because of the price, but I need to start saving for the extra nv5 costs.

There are three german magazine reviews out, of which I know of. Not sure how "good" this magazines are. Just to whet your appetite
bought them all

KEYBOARDS 2019 Nr. 3 https://www.keyboards.de
german:
"das ergebnis dieses setups ist ein piano-sound, welcher derart unfassbar nah an das spektrum eines akustischen pendants heranreicht, dass ein unwissender mit verbundenen augen die fehlenden saiten wohl nicht bemerken würde."

english (google translate):
"the result of this setup is a piano sound that is so incredibly close to the spectrum of an acoustic pendants that some with blindfolded eyes would probably not notice the missing strings."

OKEY 2019-11 https://www.okey-online.com
german:
"das spielgefühl ist außerordentlich ‘natürlich’ – eben weil die tastatur direkt aus dem akustischen instrument kommt. man vergisst, dass man eigentlich an einem digitalen instrument sitzt."

english (google translate):
"the playing feeling is extremely 'natural' - because the keyboard comes directly from the acoustic instrument. you forget that you are actually sitting at a digital instrument."

and

tastenwelt 2019 nr. 6 https://www.tastenwelt.de
German:
"das resultat sind haptik und anschlagverhalten, die einem echten Klavier absolut ebenbürtig sind. ... auch das repetitionsverhalten überzeugt und bleibt nur nuancen hinter einem echten Klavier zurück."

english (google translate):
"the result is haptics and impact behavior, which are absolutely equal to a real piano. ... also the repetition behavior convinces and only nuances remain behind a real piano."

I believe those are not reviews, but rather advertising pieces. Am I right?
If I had a penny for every review claiming ‘it’s indistinguishable from the real thing’, I’d have a lot of pennies.

That being said, I am looking forward to hands-on (genuine) user reviews.
All hyperbole aside, the instrument does seem promising. I hope our expectations are surpassed (fingers crossed).

Oh sorry. I should have been more clear. I was asking what makes the NV5 mechanical action so much quieter than the NU1X mechanical action. But I think Gombessa raised some possibilities.

Unless the noise comes from the stop rail shock, the main source of noise is the front rail. The front rail is actually just a pin under the front part of the keys with paper punchings and a thick felt shim on top of it. That's the main shock that comes from the movement of the key. There are two options to dampen it: make the felt softer and thicker than standard which is what created the infamous mushy feeling of CA-series. Or make better body insulation and since it's a proper piano action I doubt they messed it up with thicker felts, so probably they just created a better sound insulation.

I hope Tyr won't get it as picking on him but I notice a tendency of himself to change pianos often, starting with praises and ending with replacing with the next one So, I'll wait until he replaces it with his next piano (which will probably be an acoustic piano since he already owned all hybrid pianos) and then he will be fair about the NV5

As you have experienced yourself, with a baby so young, it will be a while before the Tyr family probably can go to a real acoustic

As far as i can say, all of them are good sources for piano news with honest reviews. They are magazines, not shops (like bonners for example) that try to sell intruments.

But i agree with you, the best way to check is getting your hands on it by yourself.

I see, sorry for misunderstanding you:)

Ohh, wait, he didn't have a N1X. So, I stand corrected. I will wait until he replaces it with a N1X.

Maybe i should have opened my own shop, then i would have all pianos under one roof.

To be honest: I just haven't planned to get a NV5 and i tried it only because it was on display in the shop. I was there to check the CS11 for the quiet keyboard action due to the situation at home. I played the CS11 in 4 different stores on different days to judge if i like it much enough to use it as a serious replacement. The NV5 is the very first of all Pianos i've ever played which gave me (literally) goose bumps from the first second playing and my interest and work into the CS11 idea went from 100 to 0. I can't describe it better to make it clear. All i can say is: If you have the chance, try it by yourself.

Wow. The power of the soundboard, I guess!

So is your wife happy or sad? Because even if quieter than your NU1X, the NV5 can't possibly be as quiet as the CS11.