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2 important problems to solve with the students(need advice)
#2915101 11/22/19 04:18 PM
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some of my students use bad finger shape, I mean they press the key and bend the finger from the first joint. Another problem is not lifting the fingers while playing single notes or chords. What would be your advice to fix these 2 important issues?

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saratogaUSA #2915988 11/24/19 11:10 PM
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I deal with technique issues in young beginners by using the Dozen a Day books and letting kids know from the beginning that these are relatively easy songs, but they will not be able to pass them off unless their technique is mastered. I tend not to harp on technique issues as much in their regular songs because I don't want to overwhelm, but without fail, a few months into Dozen a Day, their technique has improved across the board, in all their songs. It just becomes natural.

That said, "double-jointedness" of the last knuckle might just be a physiological issue for the particular student. Talk more about where your fingers make contact with the piano (not the pad of the finger, for example) and *why* good technique is essential for playing with speed, accuracy, and clarity.

I don't really understand what you're talking about with the second issue. Are you talking about playing with flat fingers/low wrists?


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saratogaUSA #2916430 11/26/19 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by saratogaUSA
not lifting the fingers while playing single notes or chords.

Why would you want to teach that?


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saratogaUSA #2916729 11/26/19 06:36 PM
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I'm wondering if he's talking about "flying fingers."


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I'm wondering if he's talking about "flying fingers."

I think you are right.

For a moment I thought the OP wanted to teach students to lift fingers while playing single notes or chords. It sounded like NOT LIFTING is the problem.

But, seriously, that's probably one of the most unimportant issues in teaching students. As long as there is no added tension, flying fingers are perfectly acceptable. I've seen college-level students play fast chromatic scales with their pinkies flying.


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not lifting the fingers while playing single notes or chords.

Why would you want to teach that?


most of the students are playing the piano without lifting their fingers, also this kind of playing usually results in a muddy sound, I couldn't find any cure to fix this but I will try finger independence exercises.

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not lifting the fingers while playing single notes or chords.

Why would you want to teach that?


most of the students are playing the piano without lifting their fingers, also this kind of playing usually results in a muddy sound, I couldn't find any cure to fix this but I will try finger independence exercises.


I recommend making them play every note - single or chords STACCATO.

That will teach 'em to lift up their fingers. yippie


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not lifting the fingers while playing single notes or chords.

Why would you want to teach that?


most of the students are playing the piano without lifting their fingers, also this kind of playing usually results in a muddy sound, I couldn't find any cure to fix this but I will try finger independence exercises.


So it's a timing thing? They are playing the next note or chord before releasing the current one?

And more important, not listening to or being able to hear the difference?


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