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The Peugeot - Pleyel is real, they built 12 of them.
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In plain words .... They all look downright ugly, or tacky, or both to me.

Except the one painted with cartoons. Which could be cute in the right setting.

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I once saw one of Liberace's pianos which looked very much like the one pictured when it was on its side being serviced in a local piano store. It was covered with small rectangular mirrors, not sequins or crystals. A few of the mirrors were missing but there would be no attempt to replace them. From the audience there were so many remaining mirrors that the missing ones would not be noticed.


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Originally Posted by Nelsthepianoplayer
I once saw one of Liberace's pianos which looked very much like the one pictured when it was on its side being serviced in a local piano store. It was covered with small rectangular mirrors, not sequins or crystals. A few of the mirrors were missing but there would be no attempt to replace them. From the audience there were so many remaining mirrors that the missing ones would not be noticed.

Liberace was a total showman at heart and his performances did dazzle his fans. Only he could pull off a rhinestone piano.


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The Peugeot - Pleyel is real, they built 12 of them.
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The Peugoet - Pleyel actually used drop arms like in a spinet piano because the design has the keys placed above the strings. This makes a traditional action impossible.


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The Peugeot Pleyel looks sort of nice, but it's not a piano for practising.
No music desk.


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[quote=Dave in Denver]As far as modern designs, I liked the joint venture from Peugeot Design Lab and Pleyel:
Can someone explain to me how pedals like that can work on an acoustic piano? Even imagining those are spring-loaded cables/piano wires under tension connected to the pedal, I can't imagine how it can interface with the traditional acoustical piano mechanical mechanisms for damper, una corda, and sostenuto.
Isn't this conventional, apart from the design? In a conventional piano metal (brass?) rods extend from the pedals to the action mechanism, and I don't see that this is any different, except that the rods are more exposed. In a conventional grand, the rods are partially hidden behind the lyre, but they are still there and quite visible.

Are the rods in a piano that thin?


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[quote=Dave in Denver]As far as modern designs, I liked the joint venture from Peugeot Design Lab and Pleyel:
Can someone explain to me how pedals like that can work on an acoustic piano? Even imagining those are spring-loaded cables/piano wires under tension connected to the pedal, I can't imagine how it can interface with the traditional acoustical piano mechanical mechanisms for damper, una corda, and sostenuto.
Isn't this conventional, apart from the design? In a conventional piano metal (brass?) rods extend from the pedals to the action mechanism, and I don't see that this is any different, except that the rods are more exposed. In a conventional grand, the rods are partially hidden behind the lyre, but they are still there and quite visible.

Are the rods in a piano that thin?


They do seem thin in that photograph. The rods on my Estonia are not much thicker, however.

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Originally Posted by patH
The Peugeot Pleyel looks sort of nice, but it's not a piano for practising.
No music desk.


I think I would even miss a full-sized fallboard. I know that when my tuner has worked on my piano, it feels awkward to play until the fallboard is back in place. Some digitals don't have fallboards, so I guess it's something one could get used to. But no music desk? Not for practicing.

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The pedals on the Peugeot Pleyel remind me one of those giant wooden forks that were used as restaurant decor in the 60s.


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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by patH
The Peugeot Pleyel looks sort of nice, but it's not a piano for practising.
No music desk.


I think I would even miss a full-sized fallboard. I know that when my tuner has worked on my piano, it feels awkward to play until the fallboard is back in place. Some digitals don't have fallboards, so I guess it's something one could get used to. But no music desk? Not for practicing.

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No music desk? That leaves me out. It takes me forever to memorize music. I drag around a soft binder with my current repertoire with my penciled notes to myself. So horribly old school and lame. 😁


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I walked by Piedmont Piano here in Oakland today, and noticed that they have a Rippen grand, but it is not in good shape. Still, a very innovative design which could be said to qualify as an art case.


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