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Key action differs by dampner amount? #2910418
11/10/19 02:14 PM
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I played a few uprights recently having not played one since I was a child and I was struck by how different they felt to my digital. After a few hours playing I've gotten mostly used to it, but one thing that feels very different is how the key action changes with the damper pedal.

Not sure how to describe it, but if you press a key down slowly you can feel part way down the let off point. If you press just a little faster you don't really feel the let off point, however if you hold the damper pedal fully down, you can feel the key almost increase in speed around where the let off point would be.

The difference in feel from when the key is pressed with no or a tiny amount of damper pedal vs when you have the pedal fully down (or close) is quite striking. Especially when playing softly/slowly.

What is it that causes this different feel to the key. As this doesn't feel different on the upper keys, I'm assuming it's related to the lack of the action needing to raise the damper for the pressed key, since the pedal has already raised it? Anyone able to describe precisely why it feels different though? Or know of any youtube videos that discuss this?


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Re: Key action differs by dampner amount? [Re: Gary001] #2910473
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Not sure exactly what you're feeling for sure but it is likely the extra effort that must be exerted when the key lifts the individual damper. When all the dampers are lifted, there isn't that point (about halfway down the keystroke) where the key begins to lift the damper.


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Re: Key action differs by dampner amount? [Re: Gary001] #2910474
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The damper pedal takes all the dampers out of the action (when fully depressed) so you lose spring tension and friction at the spoon/damper lever. Quite normal. However in comparison to a keyboard with a simple spring in the back...yes, it will feel very different. You are not the first to experience this.

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Re: Key action differs by dampner amount? [Re: Gary001] #2910672
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Thanks for the info. Hopefully it won't take too long to get used to smile


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