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Originally Posted by KevinM
My practise session this evening was very much that. In this case I know why, both physically and mentally tired. I think in this case it was the physical tiredness, many muscles aching from lifting and moving too many things around today. A piece I know inside out I managed to hit all the rights keys but had no control including multiple ghost notes, other pieces not only could I not play with any control I got a lot of wrong notes.

I was planning on doing another attempt at doing a recording but I decided to not even try and just did a chunk of slow practise. It was a short practise session, I suspect pushing it would not have resulted in any further improvement. Tomorrow is the lesson with the new teacher, so I am hoping that will go well.


I've hardly played this whole past week because I was helping my son move, which took 3 days before it was complete. Physical exhaustion, plus my yoga teaching schedule, made me seriously brain dead. I just came back to serious practice today, taking it slowly because that's all you can do sometimes. And that's fine! I'm a champ at beating myself up, but I refuse to do so when it comes to the piano. Yes, I wish life was a little less chaotic (thankfully, my commitments with other people are at an end and I'm not doing anything over the winter!!), but when chaos ensues, I've learned to just do the best I can and remember self-care. Piano is my happy time. I'm SO over getting stressed out about it anymore!

I hope you have a great lesson, Kevin! My son's name is Kevin, LOL!


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I've hardly played this whole past week because I was helping my son move, which took 3 days before it was complete. Physical exhaustion, plus my yoga teaching schedule, made me seriously brain dead. I just came back to serious practice today, taking it slowly because that's all you can do sometimes. And that's fine! I'm a champ at beating myself up, but I refuse to do so when it comes to the piano. Yes, I wish life was a little less chaotic (thankfully, my commitments with other people are at an end and I'm not doing anything over the winter!!), but when chaos ensues, I've learned to just do the best I can and remember self-care. Piano is my happy time. I'm SO over getting stressed out about it anymore!

I hope you have a great lesson, Kevin! My son's name is Kevin, LOL!


You clearly have excellent taste when it comes to naming children. I hope your son understands this and shows you your due respect.

I fully know about life getting in the way. I will be away for two weeks, back for two weeks then the bathroom installers come for ten days. I suspect I have 6 weeks ahead where progress will be very limited.

Today was clearing up the garage so we have plenty of room for all the bathroom stuff which will be delivered this week. This involved two trips to the tip with a car full of the crap.

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Originally Posted by KevinM
Today was clearing up the garage so we have plenty of room for all the bathroom stuff which will be delivered this week. This involved two trips to the tip with a car full of the crap.

There's probably some bathroom humor in there somewhere, but for the life of me, I can't find it.


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I've hardly played this whole past week because I was helping my son move, which took 3 days before it was complete. Physical exhaustion, plus my yoga teaching schedule, made me seriously brain dead. I just came back to serious practice today, taking it slowly because that's all you can do sometimes. And that's fine! I'm a champ at beating myself up, but I refuse to do so when it comes to the piano. Yes, I wish life was a little less chaotic (thankfully, my commitments with other people are at an end and I'm not doing anything over the winter!!), but when chaos ensues, I've learned to just do the best I can and remember self-care. Piano is my happy time. I'm SO over getting stressed out about it anymore!

I hope you have a great lesson, Kevin! My son's name is Kevin, LOL!


You clearly have excellent taste when it comes to naming children. I hope your son understands this and shows you your due respect.

I fully know about life getting in the way. I will be away for two weeks, back for two weeks then the bathroom installers come for ten days. I suspect I have 6 weeks ahead where progress will be very limited.

Today was clearing up the garage so we have plenty of room for all the bathroom stuff which will be delivered this week. This involved two trips to the tip with a car full of the crap.


I SO relate to this! My summer consisted of:

My daughter moving out, which was a HUGE undertaking, lol. That was June.

Cleaned up and rehabbed quite a few rooms in our house because, after the last kid leaving home, everything was trashed, lol. Sanding, scraping, painting, new floors, wash, rinse and repeat, lol. For a month. 😖

My husband being laid off, which meant me updating his resume, fielding job hunting leads, helping him update his interview skills, etc. Thank goodness it only lasted a month.

Daughter being the victim of a hit and run, which totalled her car, so panic car shopping ensued over the Labor day weekend. Rental car madness, a full day of car shopping.

4 trips to the DMV because my hubby finally got a new (used car), and we gave my son the old one, so tons of paperwork and driving around. More car shopping. Fun. 🙃

Then my son decided to move. Yipee. 😂😂😂

Today was the first day that I did just normal, daily life stuff. I obviously need to smudge or something.....or maybe it's planetary, lol. It better be over, is all I'm saying!


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I've had bad days, bad weeks, bad months, bad seasons and bad half years. Piano progress is not a steady rising line. It's more like a random walk with numerous peaks and valleys. The general trend may be upward but regression is definitely part of the mix.


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Originally Posted by ebonykawai

I SO relate to this! My summer consisted of:

My daughter moving out, which was a HUGE undertaking, lol. That was June.

Cleaned up and rehabbed quite a few rooms in our house because, after the last kid leaving home, everything was trashed, lol. Sanding, scraping, painting, new floors, wash, rinse and repeat, lol. For a month. 😖

My husband being laid off, which meant me updating his resume, fielding job hunting leads, helping him update his interview skills, etc. Thank goodness it only lasted a month.

Daughter being the victim of a hit and run, which totalled her car, so panic car shopping ensued over the Labor day weekend. Rental car madness, a full day of car shopping.

4 trips to the DMV because my hubby finally got a new (used car), and we gave my son the old one, so tons of paperwork and driving around. More car shopping. Fun. 🙃
Then my son decided to move. Yipee. 😂😂😂
Today was the first day that I did just normal, daily life stuff. I obviously need to smudge or something.....or maybe it's planetary, lol. It better be over, is all I'm saying!


That sounds like a super tough summer. Take care and I hope that things stay settled down so you can focus on the really important things like your piano for quite some time.

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Today was clearing up the garage so we have plenty of room for all the bathroom stuff which will be delivered this week. This involved two trips to the tip with a car full of the crap.

There's probably some bathroom humor in there somewhere, but for the life of me, I can't find it.


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Today was clearing up the garage so we have plenty of room for all the bathroom stuff which will be delivered this week. This involved two trips to the tip with a car full of the crap.


Tell me about it, after the success of a revamp of our downstairs cloakroom/toilet so it became stunning with fancy large tiles, downlights in the ceiling, a flush were you wave your hand somewhere near it and it goes automatically, and a mirror with a blue LED that when you touch the spot a surround lamp comes on; turning into a washroom for a Bijou Hotel - driven by my wife's desire to update our dated "pampas grass" colour suite. I was persuaded (driven partly by the fact that the main bathroom shower was clearly leaking and making the wall in our stairwell damp) to do a major revamp to other rooms in the house.

We simultaneously have have my wife's sewing room (not been decorated at all since me moved in 32 years ago) decanted into our dining room, our main bathroom decanted into our en-suite bathroom and our upstairs toilet out of action due to re-tiling of it and the bathroom. In addition (given my wife gets a new sewing room), I am having my study floor carpet being replace with oak flooring - the contents of my study had to either be junked on stored in boxes in the attic (except the desk with my computers which is now in the lounge), my piano in amongst my wife's stuff in the dining room (I had a piano lesson today in the small space around my piano - more of that elsewhere). The garage currently has the tiles for the en-suite revamp to start when we get our main bathroom back, plus dismantled wardrobes from wife's sewing room. In doing the sewing room she wanted 12 downlights put into the ceiling so I had to clear the attic to get up there. Retrieved a pram 38 years old - 34 of which have been in the attic - put in on e-bay but noone wants it so that is also in the garage


All the rubbish from the various rooms was placed in our drive ready for me to take it to the tip. I was really worried about how to get shower screen in my car, but someone saw it sitting there and took it. Nevertheless I have been about 6 times with my car full. Also I retrieved files from that actic that include many old papers - bank statements from the 1980s. We have a paper/cardboard wheelie bin from the council which is emptied every fortnight. For the last three times it has been full to top within two days of them emptying it, with cardboard boxes from delivery of things and bags of shredded paper.


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Today was clearing up the garage so we have plenty of room for all the bathroom stuff which will be delivered this week. This involved two trips to the tip with a car full of the crap.
Tell me about it, after the success of a revamp of our downstairs cloakroom/toilet so it became stunning with fancy large tiles, downlights in the ceiling, a flush were you wave your hand somewhere near it and it goes automatically, and a mirror with a blue LED that when you touch the spot a surround lamp comes on; turning into a washroom for a Bijou Hotel - driven by my wife's desire to update our dated "pampas grass" colour suite. I was persuaded (driven partly by the fact that the main bathroom shower was clearly leaking and making the wall in our stairwell damp) to do a major revamp to other rooms in the house.

I'm also in the midst of a redecoration, which I entirely blame on my piano - being too big to fit in any of the obvious places in the flat. So as a result, I approved the interior designer's plans about a week ago and today I am sitting amidst tons of boxes in various states of being packed. The workers are going to empty the place to sand all the hardwood floor and refinish it, repaint all the walls and ceilings including giving me a very fetching 'accent' wall, replace all major appliances and cabinets, and window treatments, new custom furniture, update bathroom, etc. etc...

And it's all the piano's fault. That's my story and I'm sticking with it. Bad piano. 🤣

No discarding any rubbish or anything for me though. I told the crew that I can't help since I have tennis elbow and can't lift or pack a thing. Am wearing my big black elbow brace as a visual hint. Ouchy. 🤣 (Sometimes, injuries can be convenient.)


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Do professional pianists every make a wrong note now and then?

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Hmm... Looks like this happened to me today when I recorder Bach's â„–1 invention, ha-ha smile
I noticed that such a moments happen when I sleep to much. 10 or 11 hours instead of 7 - 8, for example (on week-ends, usually). Too much sleep can have negative effects, I guess.


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Hmm... Looks like this happened to me today when I recorder Bach's â„–1 invention, ha-ha smile
I noticed that such a moments happen when I sleep to much. 10 or 11 hours instead of 7 - 8, for example (on week-ends, usually). Too much sleep can have negative effects, I guess.

I'm glad to find someone else like this, so I'm not completely weird. Sleeping too much is almost as bad for me as sleeping too little. When I sleep too much, I am in a bad mood, sometimes angry at the world and grouchy, and I sometimes feel like I am in a parallel universe where everything is a little bit off from our universe. Just off enough to be annoying. 😬


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Hmm... Looks like this happened to me today when I recorder Bach's â„–1 invention, ha-ha smile
I noticed that such a moments happen when I sleep to much. 10 or 11 hours instead of 7 - 8, for example (on week-ends, usually). Too much sleep can have negative effects, I guess.

I'm glad to find someone else like this, so I'm not completely weird. Sleeping too much is almost as bad for me as sleeping too little. When I sleep too much, I am in a bad mood, sometimes angry at the world and grouchy, and I sometimes feel like I am in a parallel universe where everything is a little bit off from our universe. Just off enough to be annoying. 😬


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I experience that on a regular basis. Not enough sleep, too much sleep, sore feet, too much coffee, too little coffee or when I’m being a worry wart. But my piano never complains. Professional pianist’s do on occasion play wrong notes but they just keep going so that it’s barely noticeable. I do try really hard to do the same without so much as a wince but it’s hard. I think bad piano days plague most people. When I practice, I try to mentally get into “the piano zone”. Sometimes I’m successful.....


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Seems this past week I’ve been fumbling a lot hitting wrong keys.....Anyone else have these weeks?


Yes, me too!

Not a problem, though. I'm taking up jazz! grin

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Had this issue last week … during my weekly session with the piano teacher (probably the worst time since I am paying for that half hour).. My hands just would not cooperate at all..
I am a beginner … but it was frustrating as heck … since I played the same songs on my piano (a kawai ES110) the night before and when I got the the teachers piano (a much more expensive Yamaha ) … it seemed as if the keys were in the wrong place .. couldn't hit the right ones or landed on the wrong one when moving hands...
Since it was 9 am … I can't really blame this on being tired... but I do notice that coming from my instrument to hers.... it's quite a different feeling (I don't know if that might be related in any way... same keys... different action though)… I tend to believe it is just my inexperience :)))


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… it seemed as if the keys were in the wrong place ..


Hmm... Once, I visited one teacher in college and was so nervous that even sat not in front of the middle of the piano but somewhere to the right smile And I had a feeling that all the keys were shifted and couldn't understand why, ha-ha smile


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Do professional pianists every make a wrong note now and then?


I heard Wilhelm Kempff play the first movement of the Moonlight (on Youtube), and he played a note wrong. It looked like he was asleep while it happened. smile


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