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Re: First impressions Kawai Novus NV5
MacMacMac #2898645 10/09/19 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
But I'll worry about finding a piano that'll do 10 reps/sec when somehow I can pull myself up to around 5.

Play Schumann's The Happy Farmer at 150 BPM, and you will be at 5. smile


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Re: First impressions Kawai Novus NV5
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Originally Posted by peterws
Might it be correct to assume the grands played by Schumann and his contemporaries would be less swiftly playable than either a modern grand or even a cheaper modern upright, like a Kawai k200 . . . Which, if true, would beg the question . .

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Re: First impressions Kawai Novus NV5
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Why is a long pivot length important to me?

I am drawn to the romantic composers, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Chopin etc. They all require good regulation, the need to be able to control how hard/fast you hit the key to a fine degree. They also very often require needing to play near the fallboard.

I am a long way from having the sense of touch and control needed for playing these composers sensitively. For playing many of their pieces I find it really hard going playing near the fallboard. I am a long way from having the required skill and it will be a long time before I have the kind of skill that can play these pieces well when playing near the fallboard.

Playing on a piano with a long pivot length makes a really big difference for what I am interested in playing. The simple physics of levers ensures this is the case. I am so far from being a skilled enough player that I could play these type of pieces well on a piano with a short pivot length.

The NV5 is an awesome looking piano and I am sure for a digital piano it will sound great as well, I was looking at it closely not because I am thinking of buying anything like it, I can't, I am not in a position to, but I was looking at it closely because it looks so gorgeous and I was intrigued and then I noticed the short pivot length. That ended the unrequited love affair.

Like MacMacMac I just cannot play quickly. The repetition rate is absolutely no concern to me, as well as being physically unable to play rapid repetitions I am also not drawn to learning to play anything that requires that kind of speed. I made no comment in relation to repetition rate before this because it was of no interest to me. I made remarks that relate 100% to what engages me. It is just common sense that something that impacts my ability to play pieces that I want to hear played well I will comment on.

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Re: First impressions Kawai Novus NV5
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The first and main goal of buying a hybrid grand piano is to have a grand piano keyboard and action built in a digital piano. Unfortunately, the Kawai Novus NV5 does NOT have a grand piano keyboard and action, it has an upright piano keyboard and action. Therefore, the Kawai Novus NV5 should not be even considered for any potential would be buyer of a hybrid grand piano! They should consider the Kawai Novus NV10 instead or the Yamaha hybrid grand pianos (except one that also has a similar upright piano keyboard and action) or the Casio hybrid grand pianos.
And I do not mean in any way that the Kawai Novus NV5 is a bad product, not at all.

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Re: First impressions Kawai Novus NV5
Willem63 #2902407 10/20/19 02:35 PM
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There has been no mention of "grand" anything in this thread. And the NV5 is not marketed as having a grand action.

So if you're saying that if you want a grand hybrid you should buy a grand hybrid ... then I don't see your point.

Re: First impressions Kawai Novus NV5
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How do we know the action replicates a K200 and not a K300? Or K500? The NV10 could have had the action of a GL10. But it doesn’t.



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MikePianoLover #2902505 10/20/19 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MikePianoLover
They should consider the Kawai Novus NV10 instead or the Yamaha hybrid grand pianos (except one that also has a similar upright piano keyboard and action) or the Casio hybrid grand pianos.


Just curious why you included the Casios in a discussion of digital hybrids with acoustic grand actions? The Casios are more like the Kawai CA-78/98, Yamaha CLP-675/685 or Rolabd LX-706/708, they're high end digitals with fine digital actions but nothing like an acoustic action at all.


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Re: First impressions Kawai Novus NV5
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Gombessa, sometimes it's best to just bite your tongue on these things...


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Gombessa, sometimes it's best to just bite your tongue on these things...


But....somebody is wrong....on the internet!! eek


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Re: First impressions Kawai Novus NV5
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Gombessa, sometimes it's best to just bite your tongue on these things...


But....somebody is wrong....on the internet!! eek

As posted by Sam S in another thread:

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Originally Posted by sorrownightingale
KevinM as I already commented in another post, Kawai NV5 is K200 Millenium Upright action (K200 pivote point <20cm) NV5 is 18.53cm...but I keep saying that this is not a problem for any piano student, because Kawai Millenium Action is amazing!!!

Scarlatti K141 on Upright Action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-78XuEyBt8


That looks like a baby grand. I could be wrong but I checked another video here, and this one looks like a grand as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PntflKl2pZA

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