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Steinwas, but what was it? #2902041
10/19/19 11:05 AM
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What's the word for a piano put together from two or more instruments? A "mule"?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steinway-Concert-Grand-Piano/202802340401

Is the plate as late as the case? What does the pedal lyre come from?
Although a Model D is a concert grand, I think the proper name Concert Grand should be used only for the 8'4" and 8'6" instruments made before Steinway started using letter designations (in their 1881 catalog).
How does Renner make an action specifically for this rare piano? Or do they make a "one size fits all" Steinway replacement?

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Re: Steinwas, but what was it? [Re: edferris] #2902091
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Isn't this a Centennial D? 17-note bass and 8'9" long?


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Re: Steinwas, but what was it? [Re: edferris] #2902093
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Chances are the action was assembled by the rebuilder from parts, as the piano manufacturers do.

The rails don't look very well finished.

Fitting a modern action to a Steinway from that era is not like replacing a Bösendorfer Viennese or Blüthner Patent action.

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Re: Steinwas, but what was it? [Re: edferris] #2902142
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It does seem to have been a Centennial Concert Grand.


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Re: Steinwas, but what was it? [Re: edferris] #2902152
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I thought the plate looked old-fashioned. Notice the seller has carefully avoided showing the patent dates that Steinway liked to cast into their harps.
So how does an 8'9" plate fit into a 1910-or-so case? Were Model D's shorter back then?
Why only two pedals? I thought all Steinway grands had three pedals after the cabriole-leg era.
Looks to me like a walnut finish with burled fallboard and key slip. Nice, but the rosewood lid would look out of place.
Let me say that the bass of the early Concert Grand is big and growly. A very good piano if competently restored.

Re: Steinwas, but what was it? [Re: edferris] #2902165
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It was made in 1877 according to serial number. The legs, music desk and lyre have all been replaced.

It looks like a Centennial but I think the Centennials had a capo d'astro bar. The photos show the 4th section but not the 5th. It has the right number of wound strings and 17 notes in the bass. Aggraffes up to the 4th section. The entire action has been replaced for some reason. It could have been lost or damaged. This is a basket case. The rebuild job looks too old to have been done in 2006 as advertised. Interesting piano but I wouldn't buy it or even take it for free. Too compromised. The case parts alone would be $6000 unfinished to restore it. This would be a very expensive rebuild.


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