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Re: The action of my NU1X is driving my wife crazy
iLogic #2901592 10/18/19 10:54 AM
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Probably not an ideal idea, but.. maybe you could adjust the touch sensitivity so your touch will be softer, which would mean less key noise?


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Originally Posted by Gombessa
One of the benefits of a "pure digital action" is that they can (and are) engineered to be much more silent than acoustic actions. If you do end up exchanging out the NU1X (or getting a separate silent practice piano), I'd recommend looking into the Kawai wooden key options, like the MP11SE. The Kawai Grand Feel action is head and shoulders quieter than any other digital action I've tried (especially after a year or so of play/wear).


Yes, the CS11 I had was eerily quiet. A bit squishy but the result was an extremely quiet action.


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As already mentioned there are digitals with slightly quieter actions. But they are not going be a satisfactory solution to either you or your wife. Put the DP in another room, if it’s not already, shut the door when practising, and isolate the sound through the feet/floor following the suggestions already made. After that, well, its divorce, piano or wife.

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Or.. you could bring up something she does that drives you crazy, and demand she stops doing that. Carefully pick something that's important to her so she surely won't give it up, and you might be able to work out a deal.

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Originally Posted by magicpiano
Has anyone thought of soundproofing walls in the piano room?


In New York City, my chances of getting a dedicated piano room are slim to none. In a one bedroom apartment, you can hear the piano clearly in all rooms, so be it. That makes it easier for my wife to follow along, haha.

In the film, João, o Maestro, he buys a wooden practice keyboard and commences to clack away, probably pretty similar to how the NU1X sounds when played silently. In one scene, his servant comes in and tells him that the neighbors hate all of that clacking noise. So, he goes out and buys a concert grand and starts practicing out loud. The servant comes in again and tells him that the neighbors can't hear him well enough, could he open the windows? I don't know if any of this is true, but it is funny.

In an article in the New York Times, it was reported that Murray Perahia's downstairs neighbor complained about his practicing and Murray said, well, it's my life, and I have a concert tonight!

All week, we've had noise from construction guys building metal scaffolding on the front of a nearby building. My piano playing is an improvement over that racket!

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If you have the piano on a hardwood floor, and in case you haven't tried this, get sorbothane pads to put under the feet. My wife was similarly complaining, and it turned out the action noise was getting amplified by the floor. I added sorbothane pads under the feet and suddenly the noise was hardly noticeable. Now, this was on an N1X, I'm not sure how much noisier the NU1X is, but it was startling difference and the action is much quieter than I realized once the hardwood resonator was gone laugh


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Originally Posted by Chrispy
Now, this was on an N1X, I'm not sure how much noisier the NU1X is


If the N1X is like the N1, the action noise is pretty similar to the NU1X. Great to hear the sorbothane pads made a noticeable difference!


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Originally Posted by Chrispy
If you have the piano on a hardwood floor, and in case you haven't tried this, get sorbothane pads to put under the feet. My wife was similarly complaining, and it turned out the action noise was getting amplified by the floor. I added sorbothane pads under the feet and suddenly the noise was hardly noticeable. Now, this was on an N1X, I'm not sure how much noisier the NU1X is, but it was startling difference and the action is much quieter than I realized once the hardwood resonator was gone laugh

Are sorbothane pads better than coaster pads? Or do you use both?


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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Are sorbothane pads better than coaster pads? Or do you use both?


My coaster pads have sorbothane on the botton of them (perhaps not branded, but the same sort of dampening foam.) I think I've linked them before and you found a UK source? Same ones.

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Re: The action of my NU1X is driving my wife crazy
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Are sorbothane pads better than coaster pads? Or do you use both?


My coaster pads have sorbothane on them (perhaps not branded, but the same sort of dampening foam.) I think I've linked them before and you found a UK source? Same ones.

Ah yes. I ordered those and now have them, but I didn't realise they already had sorbothane in them. I thought you were talking about separate pads, because you can get sorbothane in just a pad form-factor too.


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I would note that sorbothane isn't just a normal foam/cushion. It's an incredibly effective noise/motion damper, since it supposedly takes motion energy and converts it to heat. You have to get the right type of sorbothane cushion for the given weight for it to be effective, but it works really well in isolating vibration (the thumping energy from DPs that travels through the action, chassis, down the stand and into the floors). Of course it doesn't do much for the actual noise caused by the action mechanism (and for really heavy DPs like hybrids, the noise from vibration isn't as prominent). Just mentioning since you want to make sure whatever pads/coasters you get actually have the real stuff in them.


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Yeah, my wife is a definite no on any sort of practice short of performances.


Why is it her place to say "no"?! Do what you want (as no doubt she does).

I have to smile when I read threads like this. As if these wives are ruling all you cowering jellies with a rod of iron. Just grow a pair and tell these wives you're going to practise (or do whatever) and if they don't like it, tough.

I don't have a wife. If you were wondering grin


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You can easily mask the action noise:
- buy a cheap stereo system (or just use a laptop instead) and play some quiet music or relaxing nature sounds. It will not interfere with your headphones;
- in NYC just open window slightly - the street noise should overcome your practice noise easily unless on a very high story.

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I can’t move it somewhere else, every other room is full and besides, we want it in the living room because it’s just so damn beautiful and vital for the living room.

A divorce seems extreme. Before going that route, the sorbothane pads seems like a less complicated thing to try. Will have a go at that first wink

If I were to get another piano, I couldn’t leave Yamaha. The binaural CFX is a must. So I’d probably get a CLP 745 or something since that’s probably out by then.
, and probably as quiet as the 645 which is ok in that regard. That would sacrifice the great feel of the action of the NU1X though, but it’s a compromise.

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Originally Posted by VladK
You can easily mask the action noise:
- buy a cheap stereo system (or just use a laptop instead) and play some quiet music or relaxing nature sounds. It will not interfere with your headphones;
- in NYC just open window slightly - the street noise should overcome your practice noise easily unless on a very high story.


LOL. While it is certainly true that the street noise can be overwhelming in many apartments in New York, this is not true if you live in the back of the building, as I do. Actually, I don't hear cars at all. The guys throwing steel on the ground, as they erect their scaffolding, are a relatively rare disturbance. Noise varies depending on neighborhood and whether you live on an avenue or a side street.

I lived on the eighteen floor in midtown and I could hear conversations on the street, including screams from drunks, noise from all night garbage pickup, and illegal construction. Not quite high enough.

There was a guy playing ball with his German Shepherd in the back courtyard of the next building every morning at 5:30am. That was a bit annoying. If only I could get him to move play time up to 6:00am, he would be the perfect alarm clock.

So, my piano can clearly be heard above the din.

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Having searched a bit on the sorbothane pads, that would look weird (if it would even work) with the NU1X, especially mine which is white.

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Originally Posted by iLogic
Having searched a bit on the sorbothane pads, that would look weird (if it would even work) with the NU1X, especially mine which is white.

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Originally Posted by iLogic
Having searched a bit on the sorbothane pads, that would look weird (if it would even work) with the NU1X, especially mine which is white.


This is a recent purchase isn't it. I seem to remember you posting a great picture of it. Hopefully you can find a way to keep it. Good luck.


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I find I'm too self conscious. My best practise happens when I'm using my headphones, without any worry that this constant repetition of this short phrase I can't quite get right is going to drive anyone nuts or not.

When practising without headphones I inevitably stop that focussed effort sooner than I should.

Same. I often will play the same phrase 50+ times in a row. Sometimes, I will get 2 notes into the phrase and restart. Not to mention as I said, scales. I think practicing without headphones around other people is selfish whether or not they like piano.

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Yeah.. I know how that feels. I always shy away from repeating a passage too often in fear of my neighbor putting his fist through the wall. laugh

DP players have it easy. Play at all times, practice / repeat as much as you want ...

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