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A question for sight readers #2900385
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What do you do when you have to move to the next page?

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Re: A question for sight readers [Re: hag01] #2900397
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Originally Posted by hag01
What do you do when you have to move to the next page?

turn the page? smile

and because it's funny, and not that it applies to you smile



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Re: A question for sight readers [Re: hag01] #2900405
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Originally Posted by hag01
What do you do when you have to move to the next page?
I'm not sure what you are asking but if it's about page turns, I have several strategies:

"Dog ear" the bottom corner of the page to give yourself something to grip so you can make a fast page turn.

Photocopy pages and tape them together to eliminate a page turn.

Memorize the top of the next page up to a point where you have a moment to make the page turn.


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Re: A question for sight readers [Re: hag01] #2900412
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To answer your question: sight reading is usually approximately one measure ahead, give or take, of what you are playing so you can turn the page while you are still playing the last measure on the current page. This is a learned habit to make your eyes keep moving ahead of where you are, and it takes time๐Ÿ˜Š and frequent self-reminders not to let your eyes get lazy and linger.

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Re: A question for sight readers [Re: hag01] #2900415
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dogperson:

Don't you mean; "... sight reading is usually approximately one measure ahead ... of what you are playing ..."

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Originally Posted by BruceD
dogperson:

Don't you mean; "... sight reading is usually approximately one measure ahead ... of what you are playing ..."

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Yes, I edited the post to correct the word to playing


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Re: A question for sight readers [Re: hag01] #2900422
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Get a page turner! I always joke that I minored in page turning in music school. When it came my turns to have turners, they were not up to my standard. ha

Once, accompanying for a voice recital, I had played thru the songs a few times, but didn't know them very well. At a page turn when I absolutely had no earthly idea what came next, the page turner--another pianist--kept fumbling, and I calmly had to count measures with my hands in the air, "1, 2, 3, 4, 5." I came down at the right place about a system down from the top of the page after the turn was completed. The singer had kept going, and I'm sure was wondering what the heck was going on.

All I said to the page turner after the recital was, "Thank you so much for turning!" ๐Ÿ˜†


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Re: A question for sight readers [Re: hag01] #2900427
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For music books I clip a wooden clothes peg (the kind with a spring) to the bottom corner of the page - makes it easy to turn to the next page. Not so good if there are too many pages to turn, though. They are also useful on for securing the music to my DP music rest. Loose sheet music I put in plastic sleeves in a folder, and then, of course, clothes pegs for the corner.....


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If I'm sight-reading for myself, it doesn't matter if I take a cigarette break, or a puff (not that I ever smoked, and didn't the Surgeon General warn against it?) between page turns. If I'm sight-reading to accompany someone, he'll have to turn the page for me of course wink .

If I'm playing from the score - i.e. properly, and having learnt the piece - I'd memorize the bits immediately after or before the page turns so that I can turn when I have a hand free, to minimise the hiccup.


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Re: A question for sight readers [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2900447
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Originally Posted by WhoDwaldi
Get a page turner! I always joke that I minored in page turning in music school. When it came my turns to have turners, they were not up to my standard. ha

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I am sure that most of you have heard this page-turning anecdote:

A pianist, frustrated by the novice page turner who kept reaching across the pianist's face to grab the right-hand page from the bottom corner, hissed at the page turner; "From the top! From the top!" Immediately, the page turner turned back to the first page of the composition, literally, "from the top."

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If you are performing from the music, the main thing is that each page turn has to be planned and even rehearsed if it's difficult. There are many ways to turn a page so there is no break in the music and many good ones have been already mentioned. There are others but I can't give away my trade secrets.

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Originally Posted by BruceD
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A pianist, frustrated by the novice page turner who kept reaching across the pianist's face to grab the right-hand page from the bottom corner, hissed at the page turner; "From the top! From the top!" Immediately, the page turner turned back to the first page of the composition, literally, "from the top."

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Score too far to the left, she blocks his view with her arm, and sits down at the end when there's an important turn left. But, he married his page-turner/registrant, so all he can say is, "Yes, dear, thank you!" ๐Ÿ˜


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I once served as page turner for the pianist in a piano trio.

She had prepared her score by making reduced photocopies of the first two or three measures after the page turn which she then taped in the bottom margin of the preceding page.

I must say it helped take the pressure off me.

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Originally Posted by WhoDwaldi
Score too far to the left, she blocks his view with her arm, and sits down at the end when there's an important turn left. But, he married his page-turner/registrant, so all he can say is, "Yes, dear, thank you!" ๐Ÿ˜

What? I thought you were joking! She really did sit down far away, when she got tired of turning the pages! ๐Ÿคฃ


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"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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I tend to get the corner of the page off the next page so when I am ready to turn it, itโ€™s a little easier. Another trick it to write the first note(s) or chord(s) of the next page after the final measure of the current page to allow an easier transition, if needed.


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I press my bluetooth page turning foot pedal wink

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I press my bluetooth page turning foot pedal wink


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