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SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 #2899599
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I attended SiFi's Liszt recital, which was at Calvary Baptist Church in Washington, DC yesterday. This is the second recital of his that I've attended, the first was a February 2019 Brahms recital that I had posted about over here.

With his permission, I made the video of one of his Liszt pieces below and am posting it on PW.

He made a wonderful performance of both Au bord d'une source S.160/4 ("Beside a Spring") and Vallée d'Obermann S.160/6 ("Obermann's Valley", or as SiFi said, it could also be "Valley of the Dobermann"), both from the first suite, Première année: Suisse ("First Year: Switzerland"), of Liszt's Années de pèlerinage ("Years of Pilgrimage"). Below is the the latter of these pieces, the Dobermann one, which I found to be both gloom and grandiose in parts. It reminded me a lot of certain paintings of the Hudson River School of the mid-19th century. I felt like I was stepping back and looking at a majestic and awe-inspiringly intimidating sky painted by say, Albert Bierstadt. Intense and virtuosic!

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Vallée d'Obermann (Obermann's Valley) in E minor – Inspired by Étienne Pivert de Senancour's novel of the same title, set in Switzerland, with a hero overwhelmed and confused by nature, suffering from ennui and longing, finally concluding that only our feelings are true. The captions include one from Byron's Childe Harold's Pilgrimage ("Could I embody and unbosom now / That which is most within me,--could I wreak / My thoughts upon expression, and thus throw / Soul--heart--mind--passions--feelings--strong or weak-- / All that I would have sought, and all I seek, / Bear, know, feel--and yet breathe--into one word, / And that one word were Lightning, I would speak; / But as it is, I live and die unheard, / With a most voiceless thought, sheathing it as a sword.") and two from Senancour's Obermann, which include the crucial questions, “What do I want? Who am I? What do I ask of nature?"


Liszt, Vallée d'Obermann, S.160/6, from the first suite of Années de pèlerinage:



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Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2899614
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I'm looking forward to watching this!


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Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2899637
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I attended SiFi's Liszt recital, which was at Calvary Baptist Church in Washington, DC yesterday. This is the second recital of his that I've attended, the first was a February 2019 Brahms recital that I had posted about over here.

With his permission, I made the video of one of his Liszt pieces below and am posting it on PW.

He made a wonderful performance of both Au bord d'une source S.160/4 ("Beside a Spring") and Vallée d'Obermann S.160/6 ("Obermann's Valley", or as SiFi said, it could also be "Valley of the Dobermann"), both from the first suite, Première année: Suisse ("First Year: Switzerland"), of Liszt's Années de pèlerinage ("Years of Pilgrimage"). Below is the the latter of these pieces, the Dobermann one, which I found to be both gloom and grandiose in parts. It reminded me a lot of certain paintings of the Hudson River School of the mid-19th century. I felt like I was stepping back and looking at a majestic and awe-inspiringly intimidating sky painted by say, Albert Bierstadt. Intense and virtuosic!

Here is the description of this piece from Wikipedia:
Quote
Vallée d'Obermann (Obermann's Valley) in E minor – Inspired by Étienne Pivert de Senancour's novel of the same title, set in Switzerland, with a hero overwhelmed and confused by nature, suffering from ennui and longing, finally concluding that only our feelings are true. The captions include one from Byron's Childe Harold's Pilgrimage ("Could I embody and unbosom now / That which is most within me,--could I wreak / My thoughts upon expression, and thus throw / Soul--heart--mind--passions--feelings--strong or weak-- / All that I would have sought, and all I seek, / Bear, know, feel--and yet breathe--into one word, / And that one word were Lightning, I would speak; / But as it is, I live and die unheard, / With a most voiceless thought, sheathing it as a sword.") and two from Senancour's Obermann, which include the crucial questions, “What do I want? Who am I? What do I ask of nature?"


Liszt, Vallée d'Obermann, S.160/6, from the first suite of Années de pèlerinage:




Now that was a GREAT 14 minutes! Outstanding job!


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Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2899648
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My heartfelt thanks again to Tyrone Slothrop! He (or she, since we’re totally anonymous here) comes to the recitals, records them in 4K, edits them to professional standard, and then posts them with kind and informed commentary. Then, as if that’s not enough, he says he can procure tickets for me and my wife to join him at a Stephen Hough recital at the Kennedy Center. I think he should get the Piano World for special generosity!

As to the performance, this was my first try at at valley of the Doberman. My goal is to play it as cleanly as Coaster and I’m not quite there yet. But this is a work that really rewards long and deep study. I will persevere until I get to where I can perform it to the standard that it warrants.

PS, thanks for the kind comment NobleHouse.


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Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: SiFi] #2899737
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Originally Posted by SiFi
My heartfelt thanks again to Tyrone Slothrop! He (or she, since we’re totally anonymous here) comes to the recitals, records them in 4K, edits them to professional standard, and then posts them with kind and informed commentary. Then, as if that’s not enough, he says he can procure tickets for me and my wife to join him at a Stephen Hough recital at the Kennedy Center. I think he should get the Piano World for special generosity!

As to the performance, this was my first try at at valley of the Doberman. My goal is to play it as cleanly as Coaster and I’m not quite there yet. But this is a work that really rewards long and deep study. I will persevere until I get to where I can perform it to the standard that it warrants.

PS, thanks for the kind comment NobleHouse.


It wasn't a "kind comment", it was "sincere".


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Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: NobleHouse] #2899741
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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
It wasn't a "kind comment", it was "sincere".

I would never have taken it otherwise smile but I still consider it kind of you to offer a sincere opinion! blush blush


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Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2899748
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I just watched it. Quite a performance! It takes a lot of work and stamina, and concentration to pull that off. Congratulations, SiFi!


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Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: SiFi] #2899849
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Originally Posted by SiFi
Originally Posted by NobleHouse
It wasn't a "kind comment", it was "sincere".

I would never have taken it otherwise smile but I still consider it kind of you to offer a sincere opinion! blush blush



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Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: SiFi] #2900172
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Originally Posted by SiFi
My heartfelt thanks again to Tyrone Slothrop! He (or she, since we’re totally anonymous here) comes to the recitals, records them in 4K, edits them to professional standard, and then posts them with kind and informed commentary. Then, as if that’s not enough, he says he can procure tickets for me and my wife to join him at a Stephen Hough recital at the Kennedy Center. I think he should get the Piano World for special generosity!

blush

Originally Posted by SiFi
As to the performance, this was my first try at at valley of the Doberman. My goal is to play it as cleanly as Coaster and I’m not quite there yet. But this is a work that really rewards long and deep study. I will persevere until I get to where I can perform it to the standard that it warrants.

This is definitely a work packed full of every sort of emotion. Highly turbulent. Does anyone ever play the entire suite at once? I feel this one piece completely stands alone.


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"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2900352
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Nice job, SiFi! One of my favorite Liszt pieces for sure. It's a beast, but extremely rewarding to play (and teach).

I've played Book 2 in recital a few times and it works well, especially going from the Petrarch Sonnets to the Dante Sonata. There are actually a lot of tie-ins between the pieces and I'm fairly certain Liszt intended it to performed as an entire set. Book I is more of a "collection" where each individual piece is great but there's not the same kind of overarching narrative that there is in Book 2.

Re: SiFi's Liszt Recital 11 October 2019 - from S.160 [Re: Brendan] #2901892
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Originally Posted by Brendan
Nice job, SiFi! One of my favorite Liszt pieces for sure. It's a beast, but extremely rewarding to play (and teach).

I've played Book 2 in recital a few times and it works well, especially going from the Petrarch Sonnets to the Dante Sonata. There are actually a lot of tie-ins between the pieces and I'm fairly certain Liszt intended it to performed as an entire set. Book I is more of a "collection" where each individual piece is great but there's not the same kind of overarching narrative that there is in Book 2.

Thanks, Brendan. I'm still exploring the Annees, and I do love the Sonnets, but I can't stand the Dante Sonata. Right now, I'm loving Les jeux from Book 3.

BTW, the beastliest bit in Vallee is the final E major octave arpeggio. How to make that secure? Even you professionals sometimes f### it up!


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