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The 3 most recommendable LIGHT piano-vst edition for #2899513
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Hi all,

the title says it all, which would be the 3 most recommendable LIGHT versions sufficient for live playing?

I assume Garritan CFX will take top position - but which would be the following two?

Thanks

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Re: The 3 most recommendable LIGHT piano-vst edition for [Re: Chordo24] #2899521
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PianoTeq is pretty light, stable and playable. There is a free demo on their website.

A good digital slab is probably more stable than the typical VI for live playing, so that would be a factor to consider.

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Re: The 3 most recommendable LIGHT piano-vst edition for [Re: Chordo24] #2899757
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I'm pretty happy with the Sonivox discussed at http://forum.pianoworld.com//ubbthreads.php/topics/2899756.html

Requirements are pretty light:

Minimum Dual Core 2 GHz, Intel Core i5 or i7 Recommended

Minimum RAM 2GB, 4GB or more Recommended

Re: The 3 most recommendable LIGHT piano-vst edition for [Re: Chordo24] #2899767
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Thanks for the link. I like it that they offer a demo version. So ... here goes.

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Well ... scratch that one. It wants to install Pace software, even for this trial/demo version.
I say no to that.

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Define “light” ?
I’ve run both Pianoteq and Ravenscroft 275 - both are pretty awesome and neither seemed to put too much strain in the machine.

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Live use should exclude any library that requires a dongle, just to be sure.
I would also probably avoid Kontakt pianos, although that really depends. Kontakt has been glitchy for me occasionally, it would suck if that happens during a performance, and then you have to load it again and wait for the samples to load.
If you do want to go the Kontakt Route, check out The Grandeur or Vintage D. Both load up fairly quickly and sound decend, but require some configuration.
I would say Garritan's CFX is not "light"... It takes ages to load. Don't know about the Lite version though,
But I would actually recommend Pianoteq. It is very light on CPU and loads very quickly.
And I would agree with newer player, in the end I'd probably just use the DP's internal sounds. Can't go wrong with that.

Edit: Check out the Bechstein Digital Grand Lite (or Essentials, or whatever they call it). It's a reduced version of the full version and it gets loaded into the RAM completely so that it doesn't stream any samples from the hard drive.

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Re: The 3 most recommendable LIGHT piano-vst edition for [Re: Chordo24] #2899826
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Sorry for my missing proper command of English, but it`s not my mother tongue, but actually my third language. When I wrote LIGHT I didn`t refer to computer load - instead I meant "reduced version".

Thanks

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So do you mean “cheap” then ? Still not sure what you’re after.

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Originally Posted by Chordo24
Sorry for my missing proper command of English, but it`s not my mother tongue, but actually my third language. When I wrote LIGHT I didn`t refer to computer load - instead I meant "reduced version".

Are you talking about the difference between Garritan CFX Full and Garritan CFX Lite, for example?


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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Originally Posted by Grazilerimba
Live use should exclude any library that requires a dongle, just to be sure.
I would also probably avoid Kontakt pianos, although that really depends. Kontakt has been glitchy for me occasionally, it would suck if that happens during a performance, and then you have to load it again and wait for the samples to load.
If you do want to go the Kontakt Route, check out The Grandeur or Vintage D. Both load up fairly quickly and sound decend, but require some configuration.
I would say Garritan's CFX is not "light"... It takes ages to load. Don't know about the Lite version though,
But I would actually recommend Pianoteq. It is very light on CPU and loads very quickly.
And I would agree with newer player, in the end I'd probably just use the DP's internal sounds. Can't go wrong with that.

Edit: Check out the Bechstein Digital Grand Lite (or Essentials, or whatever they call it). It's a reduced version of the full version and it gets loaded into the RAM completely so that it doesn't stream any samples from the hard drive.


On my i5 4gb RAM, SSD storage machine, CFX Lite takes one minute and twenty seconds to load.


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Re: The 3 most recommendable LIGHT piano-vst edition for [Re: Grazilerimba] #2899904
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Originally Posted by Grazilerimba
Live use should exclude any library that requires a dongle, just to be sure.

Why?


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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Ralphiano : I have discovered that Garritan CFX takes a lot of time to load because of the real-time antivirus of Windows. Just switch it off makes the loading time comparable with other virtual pianos


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If you're talking about the Garritan CFX light ... mine loads in four seconds. With AV turned on. (I don't the the AV is scanning these files.)

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by Grazilerimba
Live use should exclude any library that requires a dongle, just to be sure.

Why?


Because it can break or have driver issues unexpectedly and then you're stranded with a non functional setup.

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Originally Posted by Grazilerimba
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Originally Posted by Grazilerimba
Live use should exclude any library that requires a dongle, just to be sure.

Why?


Because it can break or have driver issues unexpectedly and then you're stranded with a non functional setup.

Has this been happening for users of Garritan CFX? Is it a known issue? Is the software maker aware?

Or is this something that occurs because of user error - someone accidentally unplugs the dongle?


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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Perhaps this is a reference to the Ilok fiasco several years ago ... when the software would "lose" licenses unexpectedly, leaving hapless owners unable to use their software.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Perhaps this is a reference to the Ilok fiasco several years ago ... when the software would "lose" licenses unexpectedly, leaving hapless owners unable to use their software.

I see. That would definitely suck.


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14

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