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Seeking Advice On Roland V-Piano Saving Patches & Setups #2898005
10/07/19 05:17 PM
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Hello all,

I am the proud new owner of a mint condition Roland V-Piano, basically never used by the original owner.

Actually, I bought it 3 1/2 years ago, but have had to move several times, and have had no chance to play it other than just a few minutes here and there.

So I'm just now finally getting to play and work with it for about a month or so now.

Here is my question and my dilemma:

I can't seem to do any saving other than some of the patches to the new user locations on the Roland V-Piano. They save just fine, but I can't seem to save Patches with any Eq options, nor am I able to save any details within the 'Setups', (although the 'Setups' themselves get saved).

I have read the manual a number of times regarding this, and that the Eq can be saved depending on whether I make the changes to 'System' vs. 'Setup'.

*** I should mention the following just below, as it may be the key, (although it really shouldn't matter since I'm saving to the internal memory before turning off the power).

** I have every single component in my studio plugged into 2 separate Furman Surge Protection modules, each with 8 - 3 prong outlets, and I always turn and leave both of these off when done, so no power (not even the slightest trace amount of ghost power ie: like with printers, TVs, etc.) is going to my digital pianos, other instruments or MIDI modules when not in use.

* So could it be that like some devices, they have to stay plugged in to maintain their memory function in tact?

If so, then why are my Patches and Setups still saved, but not the other finer details I'm trying to save along with them? Doesn't make sense and isn't consistent.

So I'd love to hear from someone who knows or is at least familiar with this unit, as this is getting ridiculously frustrating each time I save, only to be disappointed each time I power on again.

I'd really like to leave this most expensive of units protected by the Furman Surge Protectors, and not just plugged in to the wall outlet alone.

Thank you for reading, and I look forward to your replies.

J.


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Re: Seeking Advice On Roland V-Piano Saving Patches & Setups [Re: jimusic] #2898011
10/07/19 05:35 PM
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jimusic, I'm assuming you've had a look at the 3 user manuals over here? I just had a quick peek myself and it seems p. 38 discusses saving the EQ settings. Does that not work properly for what you are trying to do? (I don't have a V-Piano myself, though.)


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Re: Seeking Advice On Roland V-Piano Saving Patches & Setups [Re: jimusic] #2898055
10/07/19 08:49 PM
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I have a Roland RD 2000.... not the same but maybe the engineering approach is similar. Sorry, I am not going to pull up the manuals... Roland manuals are difficult to say the least.

In short, on my RD 2000, I can not save EQ settings for sounds. EQ settings are "system-wide" and are saved only by saving "system" settings. So, regardless of what you did to the sounds, saved them, or whatever, when you power up, the "system" settings are loaded and EQ is one of them. EQ settings are for all sounds. Then, separate from system settings, you can save and recall sound settings.

Check out to see if the manual describes "saving system settings" and look to see if EQ is one of them... I suspect it is.

If EQ is system only, you still may be able to EQ-like settings for a sound. The way I can do this on the RD-2000 is change the volume of each key.... that will save with sound settings. If you want to make it brighter, you start lifting the volume of keys above the frequency you want to brighten. Not exactly EQ but it does work. Again, the piano must allow changing volumes of each key.... something I can do on my RD 2000.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Seeking Advice On Roland V-Piano Saving Patches & Setups [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2898275
10/08/19 02:50 PM
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Yes Tyrone, I have. As I said, I've read the related sections a number of times.

Bruce in Philly said: "Roland manuals are difficult to say the least."

I'm going to do a factory reset and then try a few different things.

Thanks again Tyrone.

J.


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Re: Seeking Advice On Roland V-Piano Saving Patches & Setups [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2898281
10/08/19 02:57 PM
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Hi Bruce. Thanks for chiming in.

According to this manual, Eq can be saved either in 'System' or 'Setup', if selected in the main menu tree, which I've tried a few different ways.

I do believe you may right in that they can't be saved per patch, but that would be fine.
I would be ok with either System (Global) or Setup, which can be loaded at or after start up, but neither happens.

I just mentioned to Tyrone that I'm gonna do a factory reset and then try a few other things and see.

It could be after the update I did, that things got worse, as is often the case with updates - and why so many times people just want to roll back to the original or previous versions.

Thanks again for you efforts.

J.

Last edited by jimusic; 10/08/19 02:58 PM.

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Re: Seeking Advice On Roland V-Piano Saving Patches & Setups [Re: jimusic] #2898572
10/09/19 10:56 AM
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Bruce you made me double check my RD2000. You can indeed save your eq settings as part of what Roland now call a Program! This is an entity much like the old RD700 series Setup, in that it contains, a collection of zone configuration parameters and now such things Key touch, Piano designer, Pedal configuration, Reverb, Delay and EQ.
So yes it is possible on the RD2000 to store your eq settings as part of each program.

It is an irritation that Roland don’t allow you to store your user Piano Designer settings with each tone. It would make much more sense if they did. Especially as each Piano Designer set can contain literally 100’s of subtle per note adjustments. So far as I know, I think you can only save these to a Program, not the Piano ‘timbre/sound/tone’ its self.
So duplicating them becomes a bit of a nightmare.

Last edited by Steve Rose; 10/09/19 11:02 AM.

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