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Practicing double octave scales w a blindfold #2897864
10/07/19 10:25 AM
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I am a guitarist for 62/years and started piano seriously at age 72. After two years of the challenge of transferring from guitar to piano, I had a real issue with playing the different fingering for both hands.
Not sure why but I closed my eyes one day and imagined the different fingering in my minds eye and it was much better. I only do this for the double octave scales. My teacher doesn’t even want me to do those yet so I thought maybe some of the teachers on this forum may have some insight into this . Thanks

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Re: Practicing double octave scales w a blindfold [Re: Hotstrings] #2897925
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Originally Posted by Hotstrings
I am a guitarist for 62/years and started piano seriously at age 72. After two years of the challenge of transferring from guitar to piano, I had a real issue with playing the different fingering for both hands.
Not sure why but I closed my eyes one day and imagined the different fingering in my minds eye and it was much better. I only do this for the double octave scales. My teacher doesn’t even want me to do those yet so I thought maybe some of the teachers on this forum may have some insight into this . Thanks


How to practice octaves? Great question. Personally, I play them from the wrist, which I keep super-loose. Very, very slow, initially, with the metronome. If your span makes it comfortable, use the fourth finger on the black notes. List B Minor Sonata, or the last movement of Brahms B-flat piano concerto, where the octaves bounce around (not just scales), your arms have to "remember" where the hands are going. But even with scales, practice landing on the next note of the scale immediately following the previous octave, BEFORE playing it. Not sure why, but this very old technique seems to work with octave practice.

If your wrist gets tired or stiff, which it will, STOP and practice something completely different!

My 2 cents.


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Re: Practicing double octave scales w a blindfold [Re: Hotstrings] #2897938
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Originally Posted by Hotstrings
I am a guitarist for 62/years and started piano seriously at age 72. After two years of the challenge of transferring from guitar to piano, I had a real issue with playing the different fingering for both hands.
Not sure why but I closed my eyes one day and imagined the different fingering in my minds eye and it was much better. I only do this for the double octave scales. My teacher doesn’t even want me to do those yet so I thought maybe some of the teachers on this forum may have some insight into this . Thanks


Yes. I often close my eyes. It provides a different perspective, working solely with sensations. It can be give new insights.

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Re: Practicing double octave scales w a blindfold [Re: Hotstrings] #2898074
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Thank for your input.. glad to hear others experience

Re: Practicing double octave scales w a blindfold [Re: Hotstrings] #2898092
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Not a teacher. But especially for the contrary scales, I simply can concentrate better with closed eyes. It is hard to know where to look anyway, because the hands move so far away from each other.


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