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Steinway or Yamaha? #2898090
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Not the usual variant of this common topic...

On the Frasier show, Frasier's apartment always had a Steinway on prominent display. I was surprised just now to see a Yamaha in his apartment on an old Cheers rerun. wink



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Re: Steinway or Yamaha? [Re: Retsacnal] #2898104
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Originally Posted by Retsacnal
Not the usual variant of this common topic...

On the Frasier show, Frasier's apartment always had a Steinway on prominent display. I was surprised just now to see a Yamaha in his apartment on an old Cheers rerun. wink


Actually, for the first season or two, Frasier had a "no-name" piano in the background. It could have been a Steinway, but in the first episode the key cover was closed and later, even when it was open, there was no visible name on the piano. (Believe me, I always look. My wife gets frustrated when we are watching a movie or TV show and I say, "Baldwin Artist Series, model L" out of the blue)

It became a product placement for S&S after the series became established.

I have to admit that I never saw his apartment in Cheers. Now I have to go find it. smile


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Re: Steinway or Yamaha? [Re: Retsacnal] #2898116
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One of the funniest things about Frasier was his pretentiousness. Everything he owned or did showed seemed to be calculated to make him appear worldly and sophisticated, but the viewer suspected he didn't really know the difference. At least that's my take.

I'm surprised he had a Steinway, after all everyone has heard of Steinway. I think a Bösendorfer would have been much more him. Maybe Fazioli or any German piano if they were making the series today.

On second thoughts, a Hamburg Steinway would have done the trick. It would be different from the Steinways of his associates.

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The piano is shown in the season 5, episode 20 show.


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Originally Posted by wpr
The piano is shown in the season 5, episode 20 show.


Bill,

I am impressed! I assume you mean that the placed Steinway first appeared in that episode. That is much later than I would have guessed, but I bow to your confident and exact answer. How did you find this out... or are you a Frasier buff? smile

Originally Posted by johnstaf

I'm surprised he had a Steinway, after all everyone has heard of Steinway. I think a Bösendorfer would have been much more him. Maybe Fazioli or any German piano if they were making the series today.


Credit the decision to unsophisticated writers? Or, if as I suspect it was a paid placement, then Steinway simply made the deal.

My 2 cents,


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Re: Steinway or Yamaha? [Re: Rich Galassini] #2898122
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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini

Credit the decision to unsophisticated writers? Or, if as I suspect it was a paid placement, then Steinway simply made the deal.


Probably.

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Originally Posted by johnstaf
Originally Posted by Rich Galassini

Credit the decision to unsophisticated writers? Or, if as I suspect it was a paid placement, then Steinway simply made the deal.


Probably.


Steinway is a brand that all viewers would recognize and consider excellent.... few TV viewers would recognize other brands, no matter how worthy outside of Yamaha, Steinway and Kawai. Steinway would be perceived by them as being more valuable.


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Re: Steinway or Yamaha? [Re: Retsacnal] #2898137
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I have a Yama-way piano. I took an old Yamaha C7 and put a Steinway style soundboard and Steinway hammers in it. Sounds jut as fabulous and avoids the high price tag.


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Re: Steinway or Yamaha? [Re: Chernobieff Piano] #2898145
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Originally Posted by Chernobieff Piano
I have a Yama-way piano. I took an old Yamaha C7 and put a Steinway style soundboard and Steinway hammers in it. Sounds jut as fabulous and avoids the high price tag.


Ahh, but where is the "prestige" in that? grin


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Originally Posted by Chernobieff Piano
I have a Yama-way piano. I took an old Yamaha C7 and put a Steinway style soundboard and Steinway hammers in it. Sounds jut as fabulous and avoids the high price tag.

You could start a new company! I would love a Yamaway...or even a Steinwai!

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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
Originally Posted by Chernobieff Piano
I have a Yama-way piano. I took an old Yamaha C7 and put a Steinway style soundboard and Steinway hammers in it. Sounds jut as fabulous and avoids the high price tag.


Ahh, but where is the "prestige" in that? grin

Send for the film crew !

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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
Originally Posted by NobleHouse
Originally Posted by Chernobieff Piano
I have a Yama-way piano. I took an old Yamaha C7 and put a Steinway style soundboard and Steinway hammers in it. Sounds jut as fabulous and avoids the high price tag.


Ahh, but where is the "prestige" in that? grin

Send for the film crew !


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Who but the piano nerds here would notice or care what piano was in Frasier’s apartment in the show? 🤣
I used to watch the show Frasier regularly but did remember seeing the Steinway fallboard. My two favorite characters were Niles, his even more pretentious brother, and Eddie the Jack Russell terrier.


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Originally Posted by j&j
Who but the piano nerds here would notice or care what piano was in Frasier’s apartment in the show? 🤣
I used to watch the show Frasier regularly but did remember seeing the Steinway fallboard. My two favorite characters were Niles, his even more pretentious brother, and Eddie the Jack Russell terrier.


Great show! Too bad they don't make them like that anymore! The pretentiousness of the two and their rivalry each to out-pretention the other was what made the show so much fun.

Maybe they still make good sitcoms, but I can no longer abide and therefore cannot watch commercial television!

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Originally Posted by BruceD
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Who but the piano nerds here would notice or care what piano was in Frasier’s apartment in the show? 🤣
I used to watch the show Frasier regularly but did remember seeing the Steinway fallboard. My two favorite characters were Niles, his even more pretentious brother, and Eddie the Jack Russell terrier.


Great show! Too bad they don't make them like that anymore! The pretentiousness of the two and their rivalry each to out-pretention the other was what made the show so much fun.

Maybe they still make good sitcoms, but I can no longer abide and therefore cannot watch commercial television!

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+1. I don't watch commercial TV also.


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Originally Posted by Chernobieff Piano
I have a Yama-way piano. I took an old Yamaha C7 and put a Steinway style soundboard and Steinway hammers in it. Sounds jut as fabulous and avoids the high price tag.


And I seriously doubt that it sounds anywhere near as good as a real C7 or a C.

You do have recordings to prove me wrong, of course, don't you?

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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
Originally Posted by Retsacnal
Not the usual variant of this common topic...

On the Frasier show, Frasier's apartment always had a Steinway on prominent display. I was surprised just now to see a Yamaha in his apartment on an old Cheers rerun. wink


Actually, for the first season or two, Frasier had a "no-name" piano in the background. It could have been a Steinway, but in the first episode the key cover was closed and later, even when it was open, there was no visible name on the piano. (Believe me, I always look. My wife gets frustrated when we are watching a movie or TV show and I say, "Baldwin Artist Series, model L" out of the blue)

It became a product placement for S&S after the series became established.

I have to admit that I never saw his apartment in Cheers. Now I have to go find it. smile

Oh, I didn't realize that it wasn't a Steinway all the way through.

I always try to see what brand of pianos are on shows and movies too. Usually it seems to be obscured. Even on this episode, it was blurry or hard to see, and then in one scene you get a glimpse of "...maha" sticking out from behind someone!



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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
Originally Posted by wpr
The piano is shown in the season 5, episode 20 show.


Bill,

I am impressed! I assume you mean that the placed Steinway first appeared in that episode. That is much later than I would have guessed, but I bow to your confident and exact answer. How did you find this out... or are you a Frasier buff? smile

Perhaps he meant season 5 for the Yamaha. ?? It was a season 5 episode I was watching.



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Re: Steinway or Yamaha? [Re: NobleHouse] #2898395
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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by j&j
Who but the piano nerds here would notice or care what piano was in Frasier’s apartment in the show? 🤣
I used to watch the show Frasier regularly but did remember seeing the Steinway fallboard. My two favorite characters were Niles, his even more pretentious brother, and Eddie the Jack Russell terrier.


Great show! Too bad they don't make them like that anymore! The pretentiousness of the two and their rivalry each to out-pretention the other was what made the show so much fun.

Maybe they still make good sitcoms, but I can no longer abide and therefore cannot watch commercial television!

Regards,


+1. I don't watch commercial TV also.


+2

Me either. In fact, I cut the cable about 18 months ago. The girls stream everything when they're home, and nine months a year they're not home anyway. So I cut TV and phone out of the cable package, and just have internet access now.

These are some old DVDs I was watching. If I'm watching something, it's generally an old rerun. Something comforting about old familiar stuff. Cheers is light and easy. I like Frasier though too...it's a bit more cerebral.



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Originally Posted by Chernobieff Piano
I have a Yama-way piano. I took an old Yamaha C7 and put a Steinway style soundboard and Steinway hammers in it. Sounds jut as fabulous and avoids the high price tag.

Sounds interesting!



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