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Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 #2893338
09/23/19 09:44 AM
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Hi guys

I need some advice. I am looking for a weighted digital piano and my budget is around 500$

I am thinking between Yamaha p45 or Roland FP 30 and maybe Kawai ES 110. What is your favourite?

¡Thanks in advance!

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Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Piano Jazz Lover] #2893359
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The P45 isn't really in the same class - for comparable Yamahas you'd be looking at the P125.
Out of the above I would probably go with the P125 - mainly because of the built in audio interface which to me would be very cool to have in a Digital.
Were it only for touch / sound I'd probably go with the FP 30 - lovely action at that price point.

Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Piano Jazz Lover] #2893388
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Originally Posted by Piano Jazz Lover
Hi guys

I need some advice. I am looking for a weighted digital piano and my budget is around 500$

I am thinking between Yamaha p45 or Roland FP 30 and maybe Kawai ES 110. What is your favourite?

¡Thanks in advance!

Purely for piano playing, the FP30 has the best action.


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Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Piano Jazz Lover] #2893413
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FP30/FP10 over Yamaha in this pricepoint, if AP sound and action is important. Yamaha has better EPs though.


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Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Piano Jazz Lover] #2893431
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Agree with Morten on the Roland FP-30 if you're looking for the best sound/realistic touch. Far better than the Yamaha P125 (my opinion) which only has weighted keys.

The biggest advantages of the Yamaha P125 is the SmartPianist app and built-in audio interface. The standard piano also sounds brighter.

Play the two pianos and see which you prefer. Let us know!


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Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Piano Jazz Lover] #2893598
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Cool Information

Yeah, i tried the Roland Fp30 and I think action is the best. Yeah, probably I will go for the Roland Fp 30 after reading different info about digital pianos and your opinions

Thanks a million!

Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Piano Jazz Lover] #2893601
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Just to add my voice in confirmation: when I was DP shopping last year, I preferred the FP-30 over the P125 and the ES 110. The FP-30 is still brilliant, and I have no regrets of any kind buying it. I do, however, tend to use it with either Pianoteq or, more recently, Garritan CFX Lite. But that is due to my being fed up with the "Steinway sound" (which the FP-30 renders quite faithfully, for a DP).


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Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: QuasiUnaFantasia] #2893616
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Originally Posted by QuasiUnaFantasia
Just to add my voice in confirmation: when I was DP shopping last year, I preferred the FP-30 over the P125 and the ES 110. The FP-30 is still brilliant, and I have no regrets of any kind buying it. I do, however, tend to use it with either Pianoteq or, more recently, Garritan CFX Lite. But that is due to my being fed up with the "Steinway sound" (which the FP-30 renders quite faithfully, for a DP).

When I still had my FP30 (I've since upgraded), I mostly used it with Pianoteq's C. Bechstein virtual instrument.


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Piano Jazz Lover] #2893643
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Thanks a million for the information. It is cool to have this forum about digital pianos cause it is not easy to understand all the variables involving before buy one

Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: QuasiUnaFantasia] #2893645
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Originally Posted by QuasiUnaFantasia
Just to add my voice in confirmation: when I was DP shopping last year, I preferred the FP-30 over the P125 and the ES 110. The FP-30 is still brilliant, and I have no regrets of any kind buying it. I do, however, tend to use it with either Pianoteq or, more recently, Garritan CFX Lite. But that is due to my being fed up with the "Steinway sound" (which the FP-30 renders quite faithfully, for a DP).


The Roland "Steinway" is rather different from the Pianoteq "Steinway" which is, of course, vastly different from the Steinway "Steinway."

I'd go for whichever of the three you like the most . . . . .


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Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2893832
09/24/19 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Purely for piano playing, the FP30 has the best action.


Yes, the FP30 action is very playable.

The ES110's action is also very good, though - which one is "best" will likely depend on the preferences of the individual playing. wink

Cheers,
James
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Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Kawai James] #2893836
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Purely for piano playing, the FP30 has the best action.


Yes, the FP30 action is very playable.

The ES110's action is also very good, though - which one is "best" will likely depend on the preferences of the individual playing. wink

Cheers,
James
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I actually still own an ES110. It's sitting in our Amsterdam flat, lonely and unused. I'm not going to blame the ES110 for my wife's disinterest though. But I still preferred my FP30 to the ES110 with respect to its action. To my ear, the ES110 sound was better than the FP30's, however.


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2893839
09/24/19 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I actually still own an ES110. It's sitting in our Amsterdam flat, lonely and unused.


Because the property is unoccupied?
If so, surely all of the items in your flat are equally lonely and unused?

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm not going to blame the ES110 for my wife's disinterest though.


Oh, your wife lives in Amsterdam?

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
But I still preferred my FP30 to the ES110 with respect to its action.


That's fine. Others may disagree.

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
To my ear, the ES110 sound was better than the FP30's, however.


Again, totally fine, but others may disagree. wink

Kind regards,
James
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Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Kawai James] #2893861
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I actually still own an ES110. It's sitting in our Amsterdam flat, lonely and unused.
Because the property is unoccupied?
If so, surely all of the items in your flat are equally lonely and unused?

No, my wife is there. I bought the ES110 for her to use. She hasn't used it much although she was the one that attended music school as a kid, and not me.

Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm not going to blame the ES110 for my wife's disinterest though.
Oh, your wife lives in Amsterdam?

She's mainly based there.

Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
But I still preferred my FP30 to the ES110 with respect to its action.
That's fine. Others may disagree.

The OP's question was:
Originally Posted by Piano Jazz Lover
What is your favourite?


Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
To my ear, the ES110 sound was better than the FP30's, however.
Again, totally fine, but others may disagree. wink

Yes, those with ears on their knees will of course prefer the FP30 sound wink


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: Yamaha P45 vs Roland FP30 [Re: Piano Jazz Lover] #2893873
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Thanks for clarifying Tyrone.


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